Matrix Games Forums

The World seems to have changed a lot more than usual this week. Osama Bin Laden is dead, then buried, and the media are acting like a bunch of school yard gossips (over reporting). We are going to get a near-missed by an Asteroid in November, but media show not much interest in the story. Then West Virginia secedes from the Union after a Goat is killed by a Nutter, and the media is not interested.

Hi all,

Zsssssssssss time... [>:][>:][>:]


Leo "Apollo11"

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

The World seems to have changed a lot more than usual this week. Osama Bin Laden is dead, then buried, and the media are acting like a bunch of school yard gossips (over reporting). We are going to get a near-missed by an Asteroid in November, but media show not much interest in the story. Then West Virginia secedes from the Union after a Goat is killed by a Nutter, and the media is not interested.

One of those happens regularly. I'll leave you to figure which one that is. [:D]

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

Admit it . . . you're happy they seceded from you during the Civil War.

That is West By God Virginia... a state not worth fighting for!


DivePac... when Virginia seceded from the Union in 1861, the western counties of that state seceded from Virginia. Lee and Davis looked at the situation and decided that it wasn't feasible to try to defend those western counties so they let them go. Those counties became the state of West Virginia.

Same thing probably would have happened to eastern Tennessee if it hadn't been right in the heart of the Confederacy.

Hi Brad... I was just joking around, as a good friend of Mrs Divepac is from West Virginia. I once joked to this friend that she was a Southern Hill-billy, and got the Her state's history for my trouble. She seemed very adamant that her State was a part of the Union, and not the Confederacy. [:D]

ORIGINAL: Mynok

One of those happens regularly. I'll leave you to figure which one that is. [:D]

Let me guest... would it be killing Goats while naked? [;)]

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Mynok

One of those happens regularly. I'll leave you to figure which one that is. [:D]

Let me guest... would it be killing Goats while naked? [;)]

Warspite1

Come on, we've all done it...


Seriously though - interested to hear that tidbit about Virginia / West Virginia - I didn't know that.

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

ORIGINAL: Mynok

One of those happens regularly. I'll leave you to figure which one that is. [:D]

Let me guest... would it be killing Goats while naked? [;)]

Warspite1

Come on, we've all done it...


Seriously though - interested to hear that tidbit about Virginia / West Virginia - I didn't know that.

Interesting times. There was a whole lot of seccionin' goin' on.

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: DivePac88




Let me guest... would it be killing Goats while naked? [;)]

Warspite1

Come on, we've all done it...


Seriously though - interested to hear that tidbit about Virginia / West Virginia - I didn't know that.

Interesting times. There was a whole lot of seccionin' goin' on.

Warspite1

Indeed. Personally, I have tried a number of times to get into US Civil War history, but never found a book that does the trick. I have limited myself in the meantime to the Osprey Campaign series and read about individual actions - Antietam, Gettysburg etc. Hopefully will find something one day.

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

Hi Brad... I was just joking around, as a good friend of Mrs Divepac is from West Virginia. I once joked to this friend that she was a Southern Hill-billy, and got the Her state's history for my trouble. She seemed very adamant that her State was a part of the Union, and not the Confederacy. [:D]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1


Warspite1

Come on, we've all done it...


Seriously though - interested to hear that tidbit about Virginia / West Virginia - I didn't know that.

Interesting times. There was a whole lot of seccionin' goin' on.

Warspite1

Indeed. Personally, I have tried a number of times to get into US Civil War history, but never found a book that does the trick. I have limited myself in the meantime to the Osprey Campaign series and read about individual actions - Antietam, Gettysburg etc. Hopefully will find something one day.

Someone may beat me to it, Warspite, but Shelby Foote's "The Civil War: A Narrative" is widely considered the gospel. It's 3 big volumes, but Shelby Foote is a story teller, and the books are written almost as if you were sitting on his back porch, listening to him tell the story, with some nice iced tea. [8D]

Most highly recommended!

Edit: http://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Narrati ... 928&sr=8-2

What he said.

I also would praise Shelby Foote's narrative. Very, very well done. By the way, I am descended from an Illinois soldier in Sherman's army so the old time Virginians tell me I am descended from a war criminal. He was wounded at Kennesaw mountain and sent home, so he never got to Atlanta, let alone the march to the sea. He did fight in and survive the Perryville, Chickamauga, and the Chattanooga campaigns.

Now that is said, let's get back to West Virginia. I have a nephew who is afraid to visit me because they have to go through West Virginia to get here and he has heard a lot of my West Virginia stories. This one isn't going to help and his dad (my brother) is going to love it. I think they are coming this way in late June so I need to accumulate as many West Virginia stories as I can.

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Sounds like Victoria, Australia with that many surnames! [;)]

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

Hi Brad... I was just joking around, as a good friend of Mrs Divepac is from West Virginia. I once joked to this friend that she was a Southern Hill-billy, and got the Her state's history for my trouble. She seemed very adamant that her State was a part of the Union, and not the Confederacy. [:D]

You can tell her that Virginians call her home state "A State Not Worth Fighting For".... since Jefferson Davis and Rob't E Lee decided not to try to fight to keep those counties...


She'll love you for that! [;)]

I have a nephew who is afraid to visit me because they have to go through West Virginia to get here and he has heard a lot of my West Virginia stories.

Just tell him not to travel by canoe! [:-]

Since we're bashing West Virginia, I'll chime in:

West Virginia is one of the most litigous states in the US. I've never quite understand the odd melange of hill billy, coal miner and trial attorney that seems to make up their collective social fabric. [&:]

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

Hi Brad... I was just joking around, as a good friend of Mrs Divepac is from West Virginia. I once joked to this friend that she was a Southern Hill-billy, and got the Her state's history for my trouble. She seemed very adamant that her State was a part of the Union, and not the Confederacy. [:D]

You can tell her that Virginians call her home state "A State Not Worth Fighting For".... since Jefferson Davis and Rob't E Lee decided not to try to fight to keep those counties...


She'll love you for that! [;)]

Well, actually R.E. Lee and the confederacy DID try fighting for West Virginia - and got beat! By troops under the command of McClellan, no less.

Of course, McClellan actually had little or nothing to do with the battle, but the troops were technically under his command.

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

Hi Brad... I was just joking around, as a good friend of Mrs Divepac is from West Virginia. I once joked to this friend that she was a Southern Hill-billy, and got the Her state's history for my trouble. She seemed very adamant that her State was a part of the Union, and not the Confederacy. [:D]

You can tell her that Virginians call her home state "A State Not Worth Fighting For".... since Jefferson Davis and Rob't E Lee decided not to try to fight to keep those counties...


She'll love you for that! [;)]

Well, actually R.E. Lee and the confederacy DID try fighting for West Virginia - and got beat! By troops under the command of McClellan, no less.

Of course, McClellan actually had little or nothing to do with the battle, but the troops were technically under his command.

They fought one battle close to the line of demarkation they had set. After that they decided it wasn't worth it...