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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:29 am
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
End of the Japanese Amphibious bonus is here....
ok, you AFBs -- how have I done weathering the storm? Are the Allies in good shape, or will the other shoe drop?
I have learned a lot...lots of optimizations I missed.
Maybe but maybe not. If you missed an optimization, then that set up other ones. If you would have done something different, then your opponent would then have done something different so the game would not be the same. Maybe your opponent would have done something and managed to hurt you more or you may have been able to hurt him more. But that would be for another game . . . [;)]
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:01 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: apbarog
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
End of the Japanese Amphibious bonus is here....
At the risk of sounding uninformed, I can say that I'm not sure when the Japanese Amphibious bonus really ends. I thought it was 31 Mar 42. But in my current game, I performed a landing in early April 42 and did not incur the high disruption that I expected for being completely unprepped for the target. Unloading was very fast using merchant shipping. I changed my theory, and thought that maybe the bonus lasted until 7 Apr 42, as the manual says that it lasts "4 months". However, later in April, I did a divisional landing at Ambon with troops completely unprepped, and did not incur the drastic penalties expected. Now my theory is that it ends at 30 Apr 42. I haven't done a landing in early May yet to see the penalties.
I realize that I should know by now when it really ends. I thought I did. I'm judging my theory on my observations, which doesn't prove anything, but certainly changed my mind. My Ambon division should have been wrecked on landing, in my opinion, if the bonus had expired.
This is a long discussed topic, and one that I thought was settled, but it is not for me at the moment.
It might last until the 7th, never really checked that. But I have certainly felts its impact in supplies and especially motorized support unload rates....
You should be able to easily check this thru the unloading of supplies...a big difference between 250 and 1200. I will drop a message to NJP and get him to unload some supply somewhere and measure the unload rate before the 7th.
Depending upon your units experience, forts and terrain, the supply, disruption level and composition of the defenders, invasions with very little to 0 prep can be done with few adverse effects.
Although I don't think it mentions it in the rulebook, naval support in the hex being amphibously unloaded to is horrendously strong. Most people only see this when trying to unload large caliber guns at level 1 ports. In addition the dedicated amphib ships once empty help unload too.
Japanese units are generally really well suited to amphibious operations.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:15 pm
by GetAssista
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Although I don't think it mentions it in the rulebook, naval support in the hex being amphibously unloaded to is horrendously strong. Most people only see this when trying to unload large caliber guns at level 1 ports. In addition the dedicated amphib ships once empty help unload too.
I always try to accompany amphibious operations of any half-significant scale with a prepped naval support unit. HQn, port units or other types of naval engineers, whichever is available, help immensely to get troops and supply off the ships and onto beaches. Another necessary support element is a prepped HQa/c of course.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:08 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Encircled
Naval losses look heavy, but they always are in the Japanese player goes for it
+1
Three blunders: Boise, 2 CAs north of Perth, and British south of Ceylon blundering into KB.
Saved a lot of the high value Thundering Herd, but lost way too many Dutch ships around the early attack on Java.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:19 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Encircled
Naval losses look heavy, but they always are in the Japanese player goes for it
+1
Three blunders: Boise, 2 CAs north of Perth, and British south of Ceylon blundering into KB.
Saved a lot of the high value Thundering Herd, but lost way too many Dutch ships around the early attack on Java.
But contrast those with the IJN losses. How about posting a listing of DD and higher ships lost?
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:33 pm
by Lowpe
April 1, 1942
Our destroyers raid Koggala, sinking one destroyer, but losing one to a long lance in a follow up fight with 4 IJN destroyers.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:34 pm
by Lowpe
We spotted these tankers yesterday, and tried to intercept with some slow boats with a single 6 pound gun...no joy, but it was fun!
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:35 pm
by Lowpe
These planes are pretty good naval attackers...
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:36 pm
by Lowpe
Our artillery is pretty good...Japan swept a hex we don't have troops in, and yesterday they marched troops south out of Bundaberg, they don't know we are on the way to Rockhampton.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:44 pm
by Lowpe
Rockhampton...hoping our tanks can shatter the IJA defenders of Rockhampton quickly.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:11 pm
by Lowpe
Plane losses. Claude? Any ideas?
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:24 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Plane losses. Claude? Any ideas?
If you captured a base where they were located, then they show up as OPs losses.
Did you see any in a combat situation?
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:28 pm
by Lowpe
Can somebody tell me about dive bomber upgrades and uses...
I notice that the -3 Vindicator has a 44 hex relocation range! What other things should I be careful about?
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:29 pm
by Lowpe
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Plane losses. Claude? Any ideas?
If you captured a base where they were located, then they show up as OPs losses.
Did you see any in a combat situation?
Nope. It is a baffle. Perhaps he disbanded a unit on an island somewhere for some reason. Likely for a withdrawing squadron.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:43 pm
by BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Can somebody tell me about dive bomber upgrades and uses...
I notice that the -3 Vindicator has a 44 hex relocation range! What other things should I be careful about?
Maybe look at the service ratings and whether they can get drop tanks when they become available.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:19 pm
by RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Can somebody tell me about dive bomber upgrades and uses...
I notice that the -3 Vindicator has a 44 hex relocation range! What other things should I be careful about?
Maybe look at the service ratings and whether they can get drop tanks when they become available.
There are some of those air units which either do not withdraw or withdraw in 1945. Find those and keep those as your training squadrons with the old airplanes. When I withdrew a squadron with 2 old airplanes, I saw it coming back with 18 new SBD-3s.
There is also a Marine DB squadron that changes to a TB squadron.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:23 pm
by Lowpe
April 1st 1942
VP ratio stands at 1.667 to 1.
Forgot to take a picture of the scorecard. Tomorrow.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:39 am
by Encircled
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Encircled
Naval losses look heavy, but they always are in the Japanese player goes for it
+1
Three blunders: Boise, 2 CAs north of Perth, and British south of Ceylon blundering into KB.
Saved a lot of the high value Thundering Herd, but lost way too many Dutch ships around the early attack on Java.
Not a criticism I hasn't to add btw!
Every allied player when faced with a Japanese expansion that really goes for it knows that he is going to take heavy naval losses because he can't ignore it.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:57 am
by HansBolter
The Vindicators are slow and ponderous, but have a great range, better than any other later model dive bomber.
I typically keep one or two operational squadrons of Vindicators until the pool runs dry.
Allied pools are so low in '42 that it has always made sense to me to get as much mileage as possible out of the 'obsolete' aircraft.
RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:08 am
by Encircled
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
The Vindicators are slow and ponderous, but have a great range, better than any other later model dive bomber.
I typically keep one or two operational squadrons of Vindicators until the pool runs dry.
Allied pools are so low in '42 that it has always made sense to me to get as much mileage as possible out of the 'obsolete' aircraft.
+ 1
Their range is great for transferring them between bases as well