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ORIGINAL: BrucePowers

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

PS....evacuate Moulmein and Rangoon. Theres a lot of good stuff there that you will miss early on.

Onime;
That is in work. Transports could start loading in Rangoon tomorrow.

The reason I bring it up is because of that stuff south of Moulmein. If he manages to gt grab hold of you there, escape might be very difficult. Also, Faber bagged me by cutting that crossroads north of Moulmein. I'm still kicking myself for that one.

Thanks Onime. Units are evacuating Rangoon as we speak. I will attempt to hold Mandalay and Akyab

The latest news on the home front[:)]

It is now Dec 19, 1942 Yenen fell yesterday. What are the reprocussions here? What do I need to do to mitigate the damage?

Yenen...Is that the base in Nort China?

If you are strong at Sian and Homan, just fall back fighting. Don't forger that some of those cities up the ( northwest of Sian) road are supply producers. At least they are in stock.

The only changes T made to his mod, for the most part, were things like more ships, aircraft and LCUs with some differing starting places and times. His mod documentation made no mention of changing supply production. He did not mention it either. This mod is essentially stock with OOB differences to put more things in the game he was interested in. It is interesting and fun.

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers

Also, I had not thought to turn off replacements.

I got the idea from a post of Moses in the War Room, but I currently agree with it. Not getting a handful of replacements will lower your combat efficiency a little, but it eats supply. Not having enough supply on hand can lower your combat efficiency a lot. Once the situation has stabilized some you can re-evaluate it.

Losing Yenen is bad news, but not disastrous. Here's a couple thoughts after looking at your maps:

Move the units to the NE of Yenen to within 60 miles of it. If T advances further towards Kungchang or Sian you could threaten to cut him off.

Consolidate some units at Changsha & then take the hex to the northeast of it. That will provide some security from being surrounded, and Changsha can be a useful base to stage counter-offensives from.

As I just said in another thread, follow my advice at your own risk! [;)] But maybe it will give you some useful food for thought.

Ctangus, what I like about these games is that they are games.[:)]

The only risk involved is to one's pride[:)]

What do I have to lose (except China[:D])?[:)]

I hear you there. There's no sense in playing a game that takes as much time as this if both sides aren't having fun.

That said, crush those Japs in China! [:'(][;)]

I have 36 real hours to plan my move. I am going to take my time and try to study the map.[:)]

Also I want to post the rest of the turn results here in the AAR.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/18/41

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Naval bombardment of Sorong, at 42,74

Allied Ships
DD Kortenaer
DD Evertsen
DD Witte de With
DD Van Nes
DD Banckert
CL Tromp
CL De Ruyter
CL Java

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 5

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ASW attack at 49,67

Japanese Ships
DD Wakatsuki
DD Mikazuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Uzuki
DD Natsugumo

Allied Ships
SS Skipjack

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TF 86 troops unloading over beach at Madang, 54,84


Japanese ground losses:
120 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 50
G3M Nell x 94

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 12
Hurricane II x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 12 destroyed
Hurricane II: 9 destroyed
Wellington III: 3 destroyed
B-17C Fortress: 1 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed
Spitfire PR.IV: 1 destroyed
Blenheim I: 3 destroyed
Swordfish: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 59

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
18 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
10 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on 18th Division, at 23,47


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Blenheim IF x 9
B-17C Fortress x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 16th Chinese Corps, at 50,26

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 18
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Cagayan at 42,59


Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 8


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Murasame
AP Nissen Maru #3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x P-40E Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
4 x P-40E Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 32,56


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
T.IVa x 9
Martin 139 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Muro Maru
DD Hayashio, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koei Maru
AK Nissyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 3000 feet
3 x T.IVa bombing at 2000 feet
3 x T.IVa bombing at 3000 feet
3 x T.IVa bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Sorong , at 42,74


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3


No Allied losses

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Cagayan at 42,59


Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 5


Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Otori Maru
DD Ariake

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-40E Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
4 x P-40E Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 45,48

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 4

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Chohakusan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Rakuyo Maru, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A-24 Banshee bombing at 2000 feet
2 x A-24 Banshee bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A-24 Banshee bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A-24 Banshee bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A-24 Banshee bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 32,56


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
T.IVa x 7
Martin 139 x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Koei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Yamakisan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 3000 feet
4 x T.IVa bombing at 2000 feet
3 x T.IVa bombing at 3000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
D3A Val x 24
B5N Kate x 24

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Hurricane II x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Hurricane II: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Snipe, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Barracuda, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
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TF 74 troops unloading over beach at Cagayan, 42,59


Japanese ground losses:
744 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Yenen

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 74170 troops, 907 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1579

Defending force 32315 troops, 184 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 780

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese max assault: 3292 - adjusted assault: 1401

Allied max defense: 796 - adjusted defense: 393

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Yenen base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
2087 casualties reported
Guns lost 41
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
352 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Tuguegarao

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20073 troops, 228 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 392

Defending force 9473 troops, 98 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 261



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Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5913 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 119

Defending force 12218 troops, 128 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 362



Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported


The Japanese are ashore in 2 places in New Guinea. They are in Hollandia and Sorong. They are taking a pounding in Sorong

Terminus found 3 of my British battleships in Kendari with his smaller carrier TF. See below. I will post damage stats for the ships in Kendari. The damage was minimal. There were P40's on CAP and they did a good job of breaking up the strike. He is going to keep coming. Do I try and run or stay put under whatever CAP I can bring to the hex. I also have about 4 squadrons of Hudsons I could move in and go for a naval strike. Anyone have any opinions?




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/21/41

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TF 70 troops unloading over beach at San Jose, 41,53


Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

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Sub attack near Menado at 39,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-102

Allied Ships
AK Compagnia Filipinas, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
101 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 33,71

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
D3A Val x 32
B5N Kate x 57

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 14 damaged
B5N Kate: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Trafalgar, Bomb hits 2
BB Queen Victoria, Bomb hits 5
BB Saint George, Bomb hits 1
CL Dragon

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on 18th Division, at 23,47


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IF x 6


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on TF, near Cagayan at 42,59


Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 15


Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Nissen Maru #3, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Surabaya Maru, Bomb hits 1
DD Wakaba
AP Mogamigawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Achou Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A-24 Banshee bombing at 2000 feet
1 x A-24 Banshee bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A-24 Banshee bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A-24 Banshee bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A-24 Banshee bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Tuguegarao

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 39512 troops, 448 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 661

Defending force 9209 troops, 90 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 255

Japanese max assault: 538 - adjusted assault: 119

Allied max defense: 261 - adjusted defense: 124

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
1605 casualties reported
Guns lost 32
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6047 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 136

Defending force 12186 troops, 130 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 360

As can be seen, the bombs bounced off. I can run at 23 knots, but he can catch me. Am I better to stay put?

Ok here is the map. Those carriers can catch me. I could bring in about 25 Hudsons and 15 Banshees and try a naval stike. I can also bring in 9 more P40s plus I have 18 in the pool. Some of those would probably repair and be ready for tomorroes ops.

You could just disband. He wont do much with port strikes, if he tries.
 
Failing that, I think you could run for Ambonia. At full speed, and at slightly diverging vectors I think you could make it. If you want to be really cold blooded, you could throw a transport TF in his path. That will probably dilute his strike force.

I can bring in 9 more P40s from Macassar. I could bring in about 15 Dutch fighters. Also how fast would P40s repair? I have 18 in the pool.

The trouble with that is that at this juncture, your CAP wont stop him. You can hope to break them up a bit, but after that its between you and the gods you pray to.
 
Also, in my experience against Faber, the Huds probably wont launch. And if they do, their 250lb bombs stand very little chance to put his flight decks out of order. Great against merchies, but pitiful against warships.

Ah! Had not thought of that. I have some A24 Banshees. Maybe I could use them?

By the way, according to my scouts it is 3CVL and 1 CV plus escorts.

What are Banshees?

I think you have more than enough of a lead on him to get away. If I were you I would be thrilled at the prospect of him coming near northern oz with a small carrier force.

I would probably try to take a shot at him with Hudsons, but they probably won't fly unless you have escorts that can make it to the target also. Hudsons wont go up against carrier cap unescorted, usually.

How many carriers does he have? Any idea why the carriers are there? Is it a raid or an invasion. If an invasion you might be able to break up your surface force into multiple small TFs and double back trying to catch the enemy transports. That's a pretty aggresive tactic.