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I just think ships named after people should be limited to the deceased. Otherwise it just seems too.... political or something. And whatever happened to naming destroyers and like sized warships after people and leaving the larger ships to be named in a grander fashion? Why are all the capitol ships being named after some damp skinned and limp wristed politician when names like Monitor are overlooked and smaller warships are named after the major battles in American history? I lean towards some sort of pattern or precedent for naming ships. Lately there is no rhyme or reason aside from naming ships after politicians...hardly heroes in my book.

Agreed on the Big E.[&o]

Did Carter do something I missed?

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

I just think ships named after people should be limited to the deceased. Otherwise it just seems too.... political or something. And whatever happened to naming destroyers and like sized warships after people and leaving the larger ships to be named in a grander fashion? Why are all the capitol ships being named after some damp skinned and limp wristed politician when names like Monitor are overlooked and smaller warships are named after the major battles in American history? I lean towards some sort of pattern or precedent for naming ships. Lately there is no rhyme or reason aside from naming ships after politicians...hardly heroes in my book.

Agreed on the Big E.[&o]

Agreed on the politicians!!

ORIGINAL: irrelevant

I see a padlock in this threads future.[:D]

Probably But maybe not before Monday[:D]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

I just think ships named after people should be limited to the deceased. Otherwise it just seems too.... political or something. And whatever happened to naming destroyers and like sized warships after people and leaving the larger ships to be named in a grander fashion? Why are all the capitol ships being named after some damp skinned and limp wristed politician when names like Monitor are overlooked and smaller warships are named after the major battles in American history? I lean towards some sort of pattern or precedent for naming ships. Lately there is no rhyme or reason aside from naming ships after politicians...hardly heroes in my book.

Agreed on the Big E.[&o]

Agreed on the politicians
Agreed on the Big E Let's get back to naming our capital ships for our greatest heroes

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

They had better name the next carrier in the new class of carriers the USS Enterprise since the current onE (CVN-65) is nearing the end of its service life. Having a navy without a named carrier USS Enterprise is unthinkable. Just my thoughts.

TOMLABEL

The current Enterprise I believe is scheduled to active for another twenty years or so (maybe longer). My best guess is the 4th or 5th in the new class of CVNs will be named Enterprise. It cannot be done until the current Big is retired.

Flipper

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I see a padlock in this threads future.[:D]

There. Now that's taken care of. [:D]

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

They had better name the next carrier in the new class of carriers the USS Enterprise since the current onE (CVN-65) is nearing the end of its service life. Having a navy without a named carrier USS Enterprise is unthinkable. Just my thoughts.

TOMLABEL

The current Enterprise I believe is scheduled to active for another twenty years or so (maybe longer). My best guess is the 4th or 5th in the new class of CVNs will be named Enterprise. It cannot be done until the current Big is retired.

Flipper

I'm not so sure. I read on one of the CV-65 Enterprise sites that her planned replacement will be CVX-78 in 2013. At that time she will be 52 years old. [&:]

TOMLABEL

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

I'm not so sure. I read on one of the CV-65 Enterprise sites that her planned replacement will be CVX-78 in 2013. At that time she will be 52 years old. [&:]

TOMLABEL

Tom,

Currently, naming of CVX-78 Enterprise is a "wish" (albeit a GOOD one). As with everything in politics WHO KNOWS what will happen. My vote is for Enterprise, but I hate to see the current put down before her time. Especially if as I expect CVX-78 is not named the same.

Flipper

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish

ORIGINAL: TOMLABEL

I'm not so sure. I read on one of the CV-65 Enterprise sites that her planned replacement will be CVX-78 in 2013. At that time she will be 52 years old. [&:]

TOMLABEL

Tom,

Currently, naming of CVX-78 Enterprise is a "wish" (albeit a GOOD one). As with everything in politics WHO KNOWS what will happen. My vote is for Enterprise, but I hate to see the current put down before her time. Especially if as I expect CVX-78 is not named the same.

Flipper

Sounds like you think some twat will be named as opposeed to the deserving...
Bummer!

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

I just think ships named after people should be limited to the deceased. Otherwise it just seems too.... political or something. And whatever happened to naming destroyers and like sized warships after people and leaving the larger ships to be named in a grander fashion? Why are all the capitol ships being named after some damp skinned and limp wristed politician when names like Monitor are overlooked and smaller warships are named after the major battles in American history? I lean towards some sort of pattern or precedent for naming ships. Lately there is no rhyme or reason aside from naming ships after politicians...hardly heroes in my book.

Agreed on the Big E.[&o]

I agree. I never liked CVs named after people. However, if the Navy is going to name them after people, they should name them after people who are long dead and the book on their life history is mostly closed. Lincoln, Washington, and even TR Roosevelt and Kennedy were presidents who had a great impact. The footprint of Bush I is still unknown, but I suspect that historically he's going seen to be a chair warmer between two much more memorable presidents. In another 25 years, Bush I will probably be about as memorable to most Americans are many of the 19th century presidents.

Personally, I have not been impressed with either Bush. Bush I was at least competent, but I always felt the invasion of Panama was flat out illegal. As for GW... If I start, I won't be able to stop.

BTW, according to this site: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/gonavy/atsugi/gonavy604.html

The next carrier will be named the Gerald Ford. Will the next one after that be the Nixon?

Bill

CVN-82 Jerry Springer, anyone?[;)]

How about naming a CV after a womnan? CVN Monica Levinsky perhaps? [:D]

Hi all,

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George H. W. Bush - uh...Defender of Kuwait

He was navy pilot in the Pacific during WWII.

He was President.


Leo "Apollo11"

If it is to be named in 2013, then it will probably be CVN Condi Rice.[X(]

USN JFK
 named after President who
WW2 hero for saving crew after getting boat sunk
threatened Red China with war over Quemoy and Matsu
 screwed up Cuban invasion-promised support- then changed his mind
sent the first troops to South Vietnam
brought the world to the brink of nuclear disaster- Russians backed down, thankfully
Cut taxes on the rich- thus providing a boost to the economy
Biggest claim to fame- assinated
 
USN Bush
 Invaded Panama
Saved Kuwait; hey a victory!
passed no significant legislation
Was the youngest pilot in the US Navy during WW2-18 years old
biggest claim to fame -shot down in WW2
 
not much difference between the two.

Tell us what you really feel, why don't you?

There is definitely somthing wrong with the names of US ships nowadays.

Check LCS Freedom AFAIK next is Independence. What comes after? LCS Democracy?

Someone is taking the names of soviet warships from the fifties.

Brave new world.

I read somewhere that Truman and Bush were picked to honor the Presidents during the start and finish of the cold war. Otherwise I agree Bush shouldn't have a CV named after him, even if he was a Naval Aviator during WWII.

Maybe theyre just trying to use their last chance to have a CV named for him. If the democrats ever get elected again Thread knows there will never be another budget to include nuclear carriers in it. [:D]