Matrix Games Forums

ORIGINAL: Halsey

On the map.
The road that crosses the river 2 hexes east of Yenen doesn't show up on the "W' key.
So I guess it is a phantom road hex. [;)]

Edit...just rechecked the map...I thought you were referencing the light rail near Sian.

I am playing a long term pbm game of chs as the allies - currently up to march 1944. It is an older version of chs v106 but the following issues also seem to be present in the latest chs v208.

Most japanese carriers never seem to get a radar update of ANY kind. This seems to adversely reduce their cap during the later war years compared to the americans. As far as I know all japanese carriers had air search radar fitted by 1943.

The allied paratroop units have several items of equipment which will not transport by air in the game eg 75mm pack howitzer. In real life all the equipment in para units could be broken down into air transportable loads - so please can we adjust the various weapon stats to do this.

My thanks to the chs team for producing such a good mod - march 1944 and nothing major is causing problems in our game. I would like the subs to be spotted less from the air but that is a program rather than a mod issue.

ORIGINAL: spence

CHS has the CGC Haida and CGC Onondaga as "Taney Class" cutters. They are each seperate classes.

CGC Haida approaches Taney in AA/ASW armament but was slower. Onondaga was slower still and much less capable.

CGC Taney - 2700 tons, 19.8 kts max spd, 15 kts economical, 2 x 5/51 cal, 4 x 3"/50 cal, 4 x.50 cal (1941) increased 1942 to 8 x 20mm (1942) - rearmed in unique 4 x 5"/38 cal in single closed mounts in early 1943 but then deployed to Atlantic. Converted to AGC in 1944 with 2 x 5/38 in open mounts, 8 40mm in 2 quad mounts and 8 20mm.
Initial ASW armament in 1941 was 2 DC racks and 1 Y-gun. Increased to 4 K-guns in 1942.

CGC Haida - 1506 tons, 15.5 kts max, 9 kts econ, 1941-42 armament: 2 x 5"/51 cal, 1 x 3"/50 cal, 2 x .50 cal, 4 x Y-guns, 2 x DC racks. Refitted 1/43 with 2 x 3"/50, 4 x 20mm, 4 K-guns, 2 x Mousetraps, 2 DC racks

CGC Onondaga - 1005 tons, 12.8 kts max, 9.4 kts econ, 2 x 3"/50 cal, 2 x 20 mm, 4 Y-guns, 2 Mousetrap, 2 DC racks.

None of these ships had any armor though they all had shell plating double that usually found on a DD since in their Coast Guard duties they often operated in waters with sea ice. They were not however, icebreakers. Serving on CGC Duane, a sister of Taney, in 1973 I witnessed us plowing through 1-2 inches of sea ice pancakes at about 15 kts without any damage though (it was a little tough on the paint so that did not make the BMC very happy).

good site for all CG cutters of any sort: http://www.uscg.mil/history/WEBCUTTERS/

Photos of Onondaga and Haida in wartime regalia are in "Another obscure ship" thread. The lines of the Taney Class ship side in CHS are really sweet.

Don Bowen sent this to me ages ago when we were still doing the first generation CHS but we never put it in CHS due to a severe shortage of slots.

ORIGINAL: asdicus
The allied paratroop units have several items of equipment which will not transport by air in the game eg 75mm pack howitzer. In real life all the equipment in para units could be broken down into air transportable loads - so please can we adjust the various weapon stats to do this.

I agree. The pack howitzer was designed to be carried by a mule. It was easily tansported by C-47s. It's load cost needs to be reduced.

Bill

ORIGINAL: wdolson

I don't know if the Torpbeau was ever used in the Pacific, but torpedo carrying equipment became standard on all Beaufighters midway through the Mk VI production run.

No No No!!! RAAF Beaufighter squadrons were raised, equipped and trained for the long range fighter (strafer) role. Though their aircraft were theoretically capable of torpedo strike, the squadrons were never issued with the weapons or trained in their use. (Ever wondered in the game why they are are classed as fighter/bomber rather than torpedo bomber like the Beaufort??) This was done (after a long hard fight) so the Beaufighter squadrons could conduct their historical missions.

If you can put up a convincing argument that RAF Torbeaus were used in the India/Burma areas, I'm sure you will get a sympathetic hearing for the creation of a new aircraft class as a torpedo bomber.

ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

After upgrade they are not, IIRC, forgot to say that (O19/20). I'll check the cruisers today, if I have time.

I see it now. Thanks again.

Andrew, this was part of the AA upgrades. Historically by mid 1943 British and Commonwealth cruisers lost their catapults and all aircraft handling gear. This enabled them to mount more AA guns. It seems that most British cruisers had serious topweight problems and had to sacrifice weight somewhere.

ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

ORIGINAL: VSWG
It's the other way around: they start the game with construction engineers, but will start filling out with combat engineers, and will never draw engineers during the game. I'd say the bug is in the formation unit, which should only contain construction engineers.

Of course you are right - that is what I intended to write, but managed to stuff up the wording (all too common for me).

There are also 5 US CBT Engineer Regiments in CHS - pure combat engineer units (they don't have a formation unit). A sixth combat engineer unit would be the 301st Provisional Engineer Bn., a Filipino unit. Then there are the combat engineers embedded in the Army and especially Marines Divisions... I'm no expert either, but I think this is a bug that can be fixed without further research.

And I missed these as I just did a very quick search looking for any other units that used the formation template (no others do). It has been so long since I actually played this game that I am very rusty on the details these days...

I agree - this can be fixed by simply correcting the formation template.

Thanks,
Andrew

Allof this was hased oout in previous RHS discussions. Here is a breakdown of the Engineer regimetns assigned to the Pacific:

Below is a total of all the different US Army Engineer Groups/Regiments serving in the Pacific in WWII according to Stanton. This list does not include any independent BN's. From studying Stanton it would appear that only two BN's were assigned to each Group/Regiment. The Engineers were being slowly reorganized into Groups, which were essentially the same as Regiments except the constituent BN's were given unique numbers, whereas in a Regiment the BN's were disgnated 1st or 2nd. The General Service Regimental organtization was apparently resistent to these changes and for the most part remained in Regimental TO&E. It also appears that the General Service Regiments were composed of two BN's, not three. Ditto for the Combat Eng Regiments.

Engineer Groups serving in Pacific
Combat--9
General Service--4
Aviation--3
Construction--15
Base Depot--8
Port Construction & Repair--5

Engineer Regiments serving in Pacific
Combat--7
General Service--24
Aviation--7
Boat & Shore--9

Total: 91 Regiments

Note: many of the Combat Engineer Rgt's were disbanded early 43 into individual BN's, many of which became organic to various Divisions. Some 20 or so additional general service rgts were earmarked for transfer to Pacific in late 45 but have not been included. Not included are the Construction Enginner Regiments...

Name Type Date Location Notes
18th Engineer Rgt Combat 1/16/1943 Skagway North Pacific
34th Engineer Rgt Combat 12/6/1942 Oahu Central Pacific
35th Engineer Rgt Combat 9/1/1943 Camp White, Oregon Western Command
42nd Engineer Rgt General Service 1/15/1942 Camp Murray, North Pacific
43rd Engineer Rgt General Service 1/18/1942 New York P/E SW Pacific
45th Engineer Rgt General Service 7/23/1942 Karachi India
46th Engineer Rgt General Service 1/23/1942 New York P/E SW Pacific
47th Engineer Rgt General Service 12/6/1941 Ft Ord Western Command
91st Engineer Egt General Service 2/4/1942 New York P/E SW Pacific
93rd Engineer Rgt General Service 4/16/1942 Seattle P/E North Pacific
95th Engineer Rgt General Service 4/14/1946 Ft Lewis, WA Western Command
96th Engineer Rgt General Service 3/4/1942 New York P/E SW Pacific
97th Enginer Rgt General Service 2/9/1944 Camp Stoneman, CA SW Pacific
102 Engineer Rgt Combat 3/10/1942 San Francisco P/E Central Pacific
131st Engineer Rgt Combat 10/10/1942 San Francisco P/E SW Pacific
133rd Engineer Rgt Combat 2/14/1942 Ft Lewis, WA Western Command
176th Engineer Rgt General Service 5/22/1942 Ft Lewis, WA North Pacific
177th Engineer Rgt General Service 9/5/1942 Seattle P/E North Pacific
224th Engineer Rgt General Service ? Panama Canal Transfre from Italy, left 6/8/45
226th Engineer Rgt General Service ? ? trans to SWPA, arrived US 11/9/45
330th Engineer Rgt General Service 1/8/1943 Los Angeles P/E India
331st Engineer Rgt General Service 9/30/1942 Seattle P/E North Pacific
339th Engineer Rgt General Service 4/10/1943 San Francisco P/E SW Pacific
340th Engineer Rgt General Service 2/28/1944 Portlland P/E SW Pacific
349th Engineer Rgt General Service 9/10/1942 Seattle P/E North Pacific
350th Engineer Rgt General Service 1/28/1943 San Francisco P/E South Pacific
352nd Engineer Rgt General Service 1/4/1943 San Francisco P/E Basra Iraq, to Karachi 11/9/44
356th Engineer Rgt General Service 6/26/1942 Ft Lewis, WA Western Command
357th Engineer Rgt General Service ? ? to SWPA, arrived US 9/9/45
358th Engineer Rgt General Service ? ? to SWPA, arrived US1/1/46
361st Engineer Rgt General Service ? ? Europe to Phillipines,8/26/45
362nd Engineer Rgt General Service 1/9/1943 ? New Caledonia 1/29/43
365th Engineer Rgt General Service 8/30/1944 San Francisco P/E SW Pacific
366th Engineer Rgt General Service 7/4/1945 Ft Lewis, WA Central Pacific
367th Engineer Rgt General Service 6/30/1942 Oahu Central Pacific
368th Engineer Rgt General Service ? ? to SWPA, arrived US 9/10/45
369th Engineer Rgt Special Service 5/8/1943 San Fernadino Western Command
375th Engineer Rgt General Service ? ? to Phillipines, arrived 8/31/45
533rd Engineer Rgt Boat and Shore 11/10/1942 Ft Ord Western Command
534th Engineer Rgt Boat and Shore 4/23/1944 San Francisco P/E SW Pacific
542nd Engineer Rgt Boat and Shore 1/28/1943 San Francisco P/E SW Pacific
543rd Engineer Rgt Boat and Shore 5/10/1943 Ft Ord Western Command
544th Engineer Rgt Boat and Shore 4/23/1944 San Francisco P/E SW Pacific
592nd Engineer Rgt Boat and Shore 11/12/1942 Ft Ord SW Pacific
593rd Engineer Rgt Boat and Shore 5/10/1943 Ft Ord Western Command
927th Engineer Rgt Aviation ? ? Arrived Guam 3/1/45
928th Engineer Rgt Aviation 4/21/1945 Geiger Field, WA Central Pacific
929th Engineer Rgt Aviation 1/28/1944 San Francisco P/E SW Pacific
930th Engineer Rgt Aviation 12/13/1943 Hampton Roads P/E India, arrived 2/13/44
931st Engineer Rgt Aviation 1/29/1944 San Francisco P/E SW Pacific
933rd Engineer Rgt Aviation 9/2/1944 Seattle P/E Central Pacific
935th Engineer Rgt Aviation 4/16/1945 Seattle P/E Central Pacific
1303rd Engineer Rgt General Service ? ? Departed France 6/23/45 arrived Phillipines 7/27/45
1306th Engineer Rgt General Service ? ? Departed France 6/23/45 arrived Phillipines 7/27/45
1307th Engineer Rgt General Service 3/16/1944 San Francisco P/E SW Pacific

Sources are primarly Stanton and Army Green Books

ORIGINAL: Reg
No No No!!! RAAF Beaufighter squadrons were raised, equipped and trained for the long range fighter (strafer) role. Though their aircraft were theoretically capable of torpedo strike, the squadrons were never issued with the weapons or trained in their use. (Ever wondered in the game why they are are classed as fighter/bomber rather than torpedo bomber like the Beaufort??) This was done (after a long hard fight) so the Beaufighter squadrons could conduct their historical missions.

If you can put up a convincing argument that RAF Torbeaus were used in the India/Burma areas, I'm sure you will get a sympathetic hearing for the creation of a new aircraft class as a torpedo bomber.

The RAF Beaufort squadrons that were sent to the CBI were trained for torpedo work. And most Beaufort squadrons converted to Beaufighters later in the war. No Beaufort dropped a torpedo in anger in the Far East because they never had any targets. They were only used in India and Burma and there were no shipping targets to attack by the time they got there.

I don't believe any land based RAF aircraft dropped a torpedo in anger in the Far East after the Indian Ocean raids of early 1942.

While there may have been torpedo trained RAF Beaufighter squadrons in India and Burma (I don't know if there were or not), they were never used. If they were in the game, it would take house rules to prevent them from being deployed in other areas where there are more shipping targets.

I was pointing out that the Beaufighters did have the torpedo equipment. I do not know one way of the other if the Far East Beaufighter squadrons had any torpedo training. The few times torpedoes were dropped by crews that weren't trained in that kind of attack, the results were dismal. The only drop I can think of that had any chance of success was the B-26 that dropped on the Rjuyo in the Aleutians in June 1942 and a wave carried the torpedo over the deck of the carrier. If the seas hadn't been so rough, the torpedo might have hit.

Bill

Get rid of the bombs on the P-61A. These planes were strictly night fighters and never carried bombs,and were never designed to carry bombs.

ORIGINAL: AlaskanWarrior

Get rid of the bombs on the P-61A. These planes were strictly night fighters and never carried bombs,and were never designed to carry bombs.

Maybe it should be changed to the P-61B? There were a lot more Bs built and they had hard points for external fuel tanks or up to 6500 lbs of bombs. The B was used in the night intruder role and some were even fitted with rockets for anti shipping work, but the glare from the rockets destroyed the crew's night vision, so the rockets were not used.

Bill

Oh my! I seemed to have opened a "floodgate". This was meant to be a small scale set of bug fixes...

To some specifics:

ORIGINAL: wdolson
The LB-30 was a very limited use plane. It might be better reflected to set the initial quantity to the 78 produced (I'm pretty sure it was 78, though it may have been something close to that) and set the production to zero.

I've thought about doing that, actually. I am not sure the number was 78. I will have to check.

The T.IVa, though a torpedo bomber by design, was never used for torpedo carrying during the war. Just after Dec. 7, 1941, they were field modified with bomb racks and carried depth charges on submarine patrol in rear areas.

I saw this discussed in a previous thread also. What I would like to know, however, is what to set the bomb load of the T.IV to. I couldn't find any specific information.

I will try to address more of these comments later...

Andrew

Found the problems with Australia-class CAs and Leander-class CLs. Both lose their a/c capacity with upgrades, causing their float plane units to resize to size 0.


I'd strongly recommend to use excellent WitP EditorX. I used it's validation feature to Scen 155.
Some of these are not bugs..and most typos probably do not affect gameplay.

Results:

Scen 155

Devices:

211 - Type undefined
212 - Type undefined
227 - Type undefined
228 - Type undefined
229 - Type undefined
235 - Available = 0 (?)
237 - Available = 0 (?)
238 - Available = 0 (?)
239 - Available = 0 (?)
240 - Available = 0 (?)
241 - Available = 0 (?)
242 - Available = 0 (?)
243 - Available = 0 (?)
245 - Available = 0 (?)
313 - No name
314 - No name
376 - No name
518 - Available = 0 (?)
519 - Available = 0 (?)
522 - Available = 0 (?)
523 - Available = 0 (?)
524 - Available = 0 (?)

A/C:

076 - Data field(s) error
076 - Weapon 1 - Possible weapon error (?)
076 - Weapon 2 - Possible weapon error (?)
076 - Weapon 3 - Possible weapon error (?)
076 - Weapon 4 - Possible weapon error (?)
076 - Weapon 5 - Possible weapon error (?)
138 - Weapon 4 - Possible weapon error (?)
234 - Weapon 5 - Possible weapon error (?)


Ship Classes:

009 - Tone Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
029 - Hiryu Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
091 - Haruta Maru Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
181 - Colorado Weapon 11 - Possible weapon error (?)
234 - Caledon Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
238 - Yorktown Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
259 - Unicorn Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
378 - Wright Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
428 - Australian AMC Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
435 - Hastings Weapon 7 - Possible weapon error (?)
438 - Utah One or more data fields = 0
462 - Resource Weapon 8 - Possible weapon error (?)
462 - Resource Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
501 - Yamato Weapon 20 - Possible weapon error (?)
501 - Yamato Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
522 - Takao Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
1256 - Lexington Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
1258 - Yorktown Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
1259 - Yorktown Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
1260 - Yorktown Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
1262 - Wasp Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
1327 - Taney Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
1386 - Australian LSI Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
1487 - Curtiss Weapon 10 - Possible weapon error (?)
1487 - Curtiss Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
1530 - C3-A P&C Type AP Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
1571 - Floating Dry Dock One or more data fields = 0
1650 - SOVIET SHIPS One or more data fields = 0

More (scen 155):

Ships:

010 - Shinano Leader(6720) assigned to more than one slot(781).
781 - Shinano Leader(6720) assigned to more than one slot(10).
003 - Hiryu Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
056 - Musashi Weapon 20 - Possible weapon error (?)
056 - Musashi Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
057 - Tone Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
058 - Chikuma Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
937 - Haruta Maru Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
938 - Hakusa Maru Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
939 - Yamabiko Maru Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
940 - Yusho Maru Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
941 - Shoei Maru # 2 Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
3003 - Yorktown Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
3004 - Enterprise Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
3005 - Hornet Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
3006 - Wasp Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
3056 - Unicorn Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
3157 - Maryland Weapon 11 - Possible weapon error (?)
3158 - Colorado Weapon 11 - Possible weapon error (?)
3188 - Warspite Leader(17695) delay greater than ship delay
3277 - Caledon Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
3278 - Caradoc Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
3281 - Columbo Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
3353 - No name
3677 - Clark Leader(11964) delay greater than ship delay
4235 - Shoreham Weapon 7 - Possible weapon error (?)
4236 - Falmouth Weapon 7 - Possible weapon error (?)
4237 - Hindustan Weapon 7 - Possible weapon error (?)
4648 - MISSING ALLIED SHIPS Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
5825 - Resource Weapon 8 - Possible weapon error (?)
5825 - Resource Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5827 - Alaunia Weapon 8 - Possible weapon error (?)
5827 - Alaunia Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5828 - Ausonia Weapon 8 - Possible weapon error (?)
5828 - Ausonia Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5829 - Wayland Weapon 8 - Possible weapon error (?)
5829 - Wayland Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5849 - Dewey Dry Dock Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
5881 - Wright Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5887 - Currituck Weapon 10 - Possible weapon error (?)
5887 - Currituck Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5888 - Norton Sound Weapon 10 - Possible weapon error (?)
5888 - Norton Sound Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5889 - Pine Island Weapon 10 - Possible weapon error (?)
5889 - Pine Island Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5890 - Kenneth Whiting Weapon 10 - Possible weapon error (?)
5890 - Kenneth Whiting Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5891 - St. George Weapon 10 - Possible weapon error (?)
5891 - St. George Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5892 - Hamlin Weapon 10 - Possible weapon error (?)
5892 - Hamlin Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
5893 - Cumberland Sound Weapon 10 - Possible weapon error (?)
5893 - Cumberland Sound Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6426 - Arthur Middleton Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6427 - George Clymer Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6428 - President Adams Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6429 - President Hayes Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6430 - President Monroe Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6431 - President Polk Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6432 - Thomas Jefferson Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6640 - Kanimbla Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6641 - Manoora Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6642 - Manowai Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6643 - Westralia Possible right side/left side weapon error (?)
6897 - Carlos Carrillo Ship nationality not consistent with ship class(1618)
6916 - Charles Lummis Ship nationality not consistent with ship class(1618)
6929 - Christopher Greenup Ship nationality not consistent with ship class(1618)
7065 - George W. Julian Ship nationality not consistent with ship class(1618)
7091 - Henry Bergh Ship nationality not consistent with ship class(1618)
7166 - Jane Addams Ship nationality not consistent with ship class(1618)
7270 - Lew Wallace Ship nationality not consistent with ship class(1618)
7534 - Walter Reed Ship nationality not consistent with ship class(1618)
8753 - DS-1 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8754 - DS-2 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8755 - DS-3 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8756 - DS-4 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8757 - DS-5 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8758 - DS-6 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8759 - DS-7 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8760 - DS-8 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8761 - DS-9 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8762 - DS-10 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8763 - DS-31 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8764 - DS-32 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8765 - DS-33 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8766 - DS-34 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8767 - DS-35 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8769 - DS-11 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8770 - DS-12 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8771 - DS-13 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8772 - DS-14 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0
8773 - DS-15 Ship class or ship nat or fuel = 0

Air groups:

1349 - Leader(15906) assigned to more than one slot(1372).
1360 - Leader(16128) assigned to more than one slot(1379).
1372 - Leader(15906) assigned to more than one slot(1349).
1379 - Leader(16128) assigned to more than one slot(1360).
0001 - Comment with data


Locations:

0010 - 2nd Area Leader(285) assigned to more than one slot(62).
0013 - 14th Area Leader(1405) assigned to more than one slot(75).
0018 - 2nd Fleet Leader(3577) assigned to more than one slot(3505).
0062 - 5th Leader(285) assigned to more than one slot(10).
0075 - 25th Leader(1405) assigned to more than one slot(13).
0083 - Shimbu Leader(1432) assigned to more than one slot(1365).
1365 - 8th Leader(1432) assigned to more than one slot(83).
2183 - 69th Leader(19537) assigned to more than one slot(2474).
2195 - 2nd Howitzer Leader(19575) assigned to more than one slot(2196).
2196 - 1st Gun Leader(19575) assigned to more than one slot(2195).
2277 - 3rd Chinese Leader(19296) assigned to more than one slot(2367).
2367 - 89th Chinese Guer. Leader(19296) assigned to more than one slot(2277).
2474 - 111th Leader(19537) assigned to more than one slot(2183).
3505 - Kongo/Haruna Leader(3577) assigned to more than one slot(18).
0014 - 17th Area HQ leader(580) type error (should be hq type normally)
0059 - 2nd HQ leader(1254) type error (should be hq type normally)
0070 - 17th HQ leader(264) type error (should be hq type normally)
0076 - 28th HQ leader(987) type error (should be hq type normally)
0078 - 32nd HQ leader(1374) type error (should be hq type normally)
0079 - 33rd HQ leader(671) type error (should be hq type normally)
0083 - Shimbu HQ leader(1432) type error (should be hq type normally)
0101 - North Pacific HQ nat not consistent with leader(14422) rank
0101 - North Pacific HQ nat not consistent with leader(14422) nat
0105 - Southeast Asia HQ leader(18532) type error (should be hq type normally)
0107 - ABDA HQ nat not consistent with leader(19040) nat
0109 - Malaya HQ leader(18489) type error (should be hq type normally)
0115 - Australian 1st HQ leader(16885) type error (should be hq type normally)
0116 - British 12th HQ leader(18738) type error (should be hq type normally)
0118 - NCAC HQ nat not consistent with leader(16131) nat
0136 - 7th US Air Force HQ leader(8570) type error (should be hq type normally)
0137 - 10th US Air Force HQ leader(15489) type error (should be hq type normally)
0143 - No. 221 Group RAF HQ leader(15344) type error (should be hq type normally)
0154 - Eastern Fleet HQ nat not consistent with leader(18706) rank
0161 - III Amphib HQ nat not consistent with leader(9097) rank
0161 - III Amphib HQ nat not consistent with leader(9097) nat
0165 - US X HQ leader(15387) type error (should be hq type normally)
0169 - US XXIV HQ leader(15719) type error (should be hq type normally)
0170 - Australian I HQ leader(16882) type error (should be hq type normally)
0171 - IND III HQ leader(18563) type error (should be hq type normally)
0172 - IND IV HQ leader(17411) type error (should be hq type normally)
0173 - IND XV HQ leader(18695) type error (should be hq type normally)
0174 - IND XXXIII HQ leader(17480) type error (should be hq type normally)
0177 - 3rd Group HQ leader(19425) type error (should be hq type normally)
0181 - 7th Group HQ leader(19281) type error (should be hq type normally)
0194 - 33rd Group HQ leader(19224) type error (should be hq type normally)
0195 - 17th Group HQ leader(19368) type error (should be hq type normally)
0215 - New Zealand Command HQ nat not consistent with leader(17138) nat
2459 - VVS-TOF HQ* HQ nat slot error
2464 - Front Reserves HQ* HQ nat slot error
2644 - 45th PS LCU nat not consistent with leader(19960) nat
2645 - 57th PS LCU nat not consistent with leader(19936) nat
2815 - 224 RAF Aviation LCU nat not consistent with leader(15347) rank

Pilots:

0010 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0013 Pilot delay less than group(391) delay
0017 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
0020 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0027 Pilot not active / pilot delay = 9999 date end = 471216
0027 No group assigned to pilot
0036 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
0043 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0061 Pilot delay less than group(96) delay
0062 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0066 Pilot delay less than group(96) delay
0073 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0081 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
0081 Pilot rank not consistent with leader(14209) nat
0081 Pilot rank not consistent with leader(14209) rank
0081 Leader(14209) type error(should be air unit)
0084 Pilot delay less than group(374) delay
0087 Pilot delay less than group(1514) delay
0088 Pilot delay less than group(1068) delay
0126 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0128 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0135 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0137 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0152 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
0170 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0175 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0180 Pilot delay less than group(1138) delay
0183 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0197 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0209 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0239 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0241 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0245 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0246 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
0258 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
0261 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0269 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
0274 Pilot delay less than group(1445) delay
0275 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0288 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0294 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0296 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0300 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0310 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0314 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0330 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0331 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0339 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0342 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0352 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
0370 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0374 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
0376 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
0380 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0382 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
0387 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0388 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
0395 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0396 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0403 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0413 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0419 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0427 Pilot delay less than group(1440) delay
0430 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0438 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0442 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
0454 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0472 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0475 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0480 Pilot delay less than group(1423) delay
0493 Pilot delay less than group(1409) delay
0501 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0508 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0510 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0527 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
0534 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0543 Pilot delay less than group(1423) delay
0568 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
0584 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0604 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0606 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
0609 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
0611 Pilot delay less than group(1440) delay
0623 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0643 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0646 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0675 Pilot delay less than group(1138) delay
0689 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0690 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0698 Pilot delay less than group(398) delay
0720 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0742 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0767 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0779 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0780 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0782 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0816 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0833 Pilot delay greater than leader(1927) delay
0872 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
0874 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0875 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0895 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0904 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0907 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0911 Pilot delay less than group(1125) delay
0925 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
0928 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0933 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0934 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0935 Pilot delay less than group(1409) delay
0937 Pilot rank not consistent with leader(15944) nat
0937 Pilot rank not consistent with leader(15944) rank
0947 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0949 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0951 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0960 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
0963 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1004 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1015 Pilot delay less than group(1138) delay
1025 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1033 Pilot delay less than group(1138) delay
1036 No group assigned to pilot
1059 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1065 Pilot delay less than group(171) delay
1076 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1080 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1086 Pilot delay less than group(1106) delay
1089 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1097 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1099 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1103 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
1106 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1125 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1132 Pilot delay less than group(1439) delay
1140 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1167 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1206 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
1255 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1260 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1296 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1299 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1311 Pilot delay less than group(461) delay
1320 Pilot delay less than group(96) delay
1327 Pilot delay greater than leader(3114) delay
1330 Pilot delay less than group(1125) delay
1336 Pilot delay less than group(391) delay
1340 Pilot delay less than group(391) delay
1344 Pilot delay greater than leader(15428) delay
1353 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1374 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1384 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1389 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1411 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1426 Pilot delay less than group(421) delay
1436 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1439 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1459 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1471 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1483 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1484 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
1491 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
1497 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1498 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1499 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1514 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1520 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1521 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1524 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
1527 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1546 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1549 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
1550 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1552 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1559 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1565 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1567 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1581 Pilot delay less than group(1440) delay
1586 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1595 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1606 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1624 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1626 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1658 Pilot delay greater than leader(3962) delay
1662 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1692 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
1702 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
1706 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
1707 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1729 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1734 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1737 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
1750 Pilot delay less than group(1138) delay
1754 Pilot delay less than group(1409) delay
1765 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1774 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1786 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1792 Pilot delay less than group(398) delay
1797 No name pilot
1800 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1813 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1818 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1821 Pilot delay less than group(1138) delay
1822 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1829 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1845 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1852 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1875 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
1879 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1937 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1938 Pilot delay less than group(94) delay
1988 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1990 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
1995 No group assigned to pilot
2000 No group assigned to pilot
2003 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2028 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
2043 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2070 No group assigned to pilot
2089 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2099 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2144 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2145 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2151 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2152 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2167 Pilot delay less than group(1409) delay
2189 Pilot delay less than group(1106) delay
2197 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2199 Pilot rank not consistent with group(1408) nat
2203 Pilot delay less than group(1423) delay
2222 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2228 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2237 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2290 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2310 Pilot delay greater than leader(15814) delay
2315 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2332 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2338 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
2339 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2365 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2366 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2375 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2377 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2388 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2403 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2449 Pilot delay less than group(1451) delay
2457 Pilot delay less than group(1423) delay
2467 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2483 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2493 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2497 No name pilot
2498 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2503 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2517 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2530 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
2540 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2550 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
2567 Pilot delay less than group(1106) delay
2570 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2574 Pilot delay less than group(1400) delay
2579 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2591 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2643 Pilot delay less than group(374) delay
2652 Pilot delay less than group(398) delay
2655 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2666 Pilot delay less than group(1106) delay
2668 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2670 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2691 No group assigned to pilot
2722 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2731 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2735 Pilot delay less than group(383) delay
2736 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2740 Pilot delay less than group(1509) delay
2742 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2745 Pilot delay less than group(1138) delay
2749 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2753 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2754 Pilot delay less than group(1440) delay
2761 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2771 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2778 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2780 Pilot delay less than group(1125) delay
2781 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2784 Pilot rank not consistent with group(1456) nat
2794 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2802 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2804 Pilot delay less than group(94) delay
2821 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
2834 Pilot delay less than group(96) delay
2843 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2857 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2874 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2881 Pilot delay less than group(1093) delay
2883 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2890 No group assigned to pilot
2896 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2903 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
2905 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2914 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2923 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2926 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2942 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
2949 Pilot delay less than group(1409) delay
2998 Pilot delay less than group(374) delay
3008 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
3009 Pilot delay less than group(1111) delay
3266 Pilot delay greater than leader(13382) delay
3298 Pilot delay greater than leader(12505) delay
3308 Pilot delay greater than leader(10330) delay
3314 Pilot delay greater than leader(7685) delay
3315 Pilot delay greater than leader(11349) delay
3317 Pilot delay greater than leader(13849) delay
3318 Pilot delay greater than leader(14541) delay
3319 Pilot delay greater than leader(13630) delay
3320 Pilot delay greater than leader(13910) delay
3321 Pilot delay greater than leader(11350) delay
3322 Pilot delay greater than leader(12489) delay
3323 Pilot delay greater than leader(16595) delay
3337 Pilot delay greater than leader(16328) delay
3350 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3351 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3352 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3353 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3354 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3355 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3356 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3357 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3358 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3359 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3360 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3361 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3362 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3363 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3364 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3365 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3366 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3367 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3368 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3369 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3370 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3371 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3372 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3373 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3374 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3375 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3376 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3377 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3378 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3379 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3380 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3381 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3382 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3383 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3384 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3385 Pilot delay less than group(1089) delay
3403 Pilot delay greater than leader(16594) delay
3420 Pilot delay greater than leader(16284) delay
3459 Pilot delay greater than leader(16355) delay
3538 Pilot delay greater than leader(16523) delay
3567 Pilot delay greater than leader(16569) delay
3577 Pilot delay greater than leader(11604) delay
3598 Pilot delay greater than leader(12514) delay
3631 Pilot delay greater than leader(9484) delay
3646 Pilot delay greater than leader(11164) delay
3647 Pilot delay greater than leader(12517) delay
3648 Pilot delay greater than leader(14754) delay
3649 Pilot delay greater than leader(13806) delay
3650 Pilot delay greater than leader(13465) delay
3651 Pilot delay greater than leader(14608) delay
3652 Pilot delay greater than leader(13568) delay
3653 Pilot delay greater than leader(9514) delay
3654 Pilot delay greater than leader(7451) delay
3656 Pilot delay greater than leader(9766) delay
3658 Pilot delay greater than leader(9089) delay
3659 Pilot delay greater than leader(14952) delay
3660 Pilot delay greater than leader(13081) delay
3661 Pilot delay greater than leader(2405) delay
3662 Pilot delay greater than leader(6805) delay
3663 Pilot delay greater than leader(2492) delay
3664 Pilot delay greater than leader(4960) delay
3665 Pilot delay greater than leader(1829) delay
3666 Pilot delay greater than leader(5692) delay
3667 Pilot delay greater than leader(4798) delay
3668 Pilot delay greater than leader(4511) delay
3670 Pilot delay greater than leader(10538) delay
3671 Pilot delay greater than leader(9183) delay
3672 Pilot delay greater than leader(7998) delay
3673 No group assigned to pilot
3674 Pilot delay greater than leader(8160) delay
3675 Pilot delay greater than leader(14384) delay
3676 Pilot delay greater than leader(2252) delay
3677 Pilot delay greater than leader(2706) delay
3678 Pilot delay greater than leader(2850) delay
3679 Pilot delay greater than leader(1764) delay
3680 Pilot delay greater than leader(4365) delay
3681 Pilot delay greater than leader(5334) delay
3682 Pilot delay greater than leader(4874) delay
3683 Pilot delay greater than leader(3449) delay
3684 Pilot delay greater than leader(4247) delay
3685 Pilot delay greater than leader(3496) delay
3686 Pilot delay greater than leader(3363) delay
3687 Pilot delay greater than leader(5735) delay
3688 Pilot delay greater than leader(2588) delay
3689 Pilot delay greater than leader(1474) delay
3690 Pilot delay greater than leader(2251) delay
3691 Pilot delay greater than leader(3497) delay
3692 Pilot delay greater than leader(6792) delay
3693 Pilot delay greater than leader(1475) delay
3706 Pilot delay greater than leader(6859) delay
3708 Pilot delay greater than leader(4493) delay
3712 Pilot delay greater than leader(3635) delay
3714 Pilot delay less than group(354) delay
3715 Pilot delay less than group(354) delay
3717 Pilot delay less than group(355) delay
3719 Pilot delay less than group(355) delay
3722 Pilot delay less than group(355) delay
3723 Pilot delay less than group(355) delay
3724 Pilot delay less than group(355) delay
3725 Pilot delay less than group(354) delay
3726 Pilot delay less than group(355) delay
3727 Pilot delay less than group(355) delay
3728 Pilot delay less than group(355) delay
3729 Pilot delay less than group(354) delay
3882 Pilot delay less than group(1125) delay
3883 No group assigned to pilot
3884 No group assigned to pilot
3885 No group assigned to pilot
3886 No group assigned to pilot
3887 Pilot delay greater than leader(4494) delay
3888 Pilot delay greater than leader(16827) delay
3889 Pilot delay less than group(1509) delay
3890 Pilot delay greater than leader(16857) delay
3892 Pilot delay greater than leader(17146) delay
3915 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
3931 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
3952 Pilot delay less than group(1618) delay
3956 Pilot delay greater than leader(16315) delay
3957 Pilot delay greater than leader(16872) delay
3961 Pilot delay greater than leader(17131) delay
3963 Pilot delay greater than leader(17165) delay
3964 Pilot delay greater than leader(17167) delay
3966 No group assigned to pilot
3967 Pilot delay greater than leader(16731) delay
3968 No group assigned to pilot
3969 Pilot delay greater than leader(16884) delay
3970 Pilot delay greater than leader(16949) delay
3971 Pilot delay greater than leader(16730) delay
3972 Pilot delay greater than leader(16811) delay
3973 No group assigned to pilot
3974 No group assigned to pilot
3975 Pilot delay greater than leader(16886) delay
3977 Pilot delay greater than leader(16825) delay
3978 Pilot delay greater than leader(16831) delay
3979 No group assigned to pilot
3982 Pilot delay less than group(1095) delay
3982 Pilot delay greater than leader(8997) delay
3983 Pilot delay less than group(1095) delay
3983 Pilot delay greater than leader(15846) delay
3984 Pilot delay less than group(1095) delay
3985 Pilot delay less than group(1095) delay
3986 Pilot delay less than group(1095) delay
3987 Pilot delay less than group(1095) delay
3991 No name pilot
3992 No name pilot

Validation of Leaders made *big* texst file, but only about 1-5 % were real bugs/duplicates etc. Everyone can check these by themselves using WitP Editor X.

EditorX really is a superlative tool. It's almost scary how much better it is than the stock editor.[X(]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

EditorX really is a superlative tool. It's almost scary how much better it is than the stock editor.[X(]

Aye !! I will not touch the stock editor with famous 10-ft pole after EdotorX came. I have ruined few attempts with "easy to fook up" stock-editor already. EditorX is really a multitude better. Not to mention viewing, editing and checking Pwhex etc.

Just to pull out one random thing: it shows all three range bands for aircraft, allowing Endurance fine-tuning right then and there... Purrfect!

ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

ORIGINAL: wdolson
The LB-30 was a very limited use plane. It might be better reflected to set the initial quantity to the 78 produced (I'm pretty sure it was 78, though it may have been something close to that) and set the production to zero.

I've thought about doing that, actually. I am not sure the number was 78. I will have to check.

According to Baugher, the no. is 75 LB-30's. Of these, 35 went to bomber units, 11 to transport units, 6 were lost before assignment and the remaining 29 were returned to the RAF.

15 LB-30's went to 19th BG, 17 to 6th BG, and 3 to 28th Composite Group (36th BS). Additionally, 7 BG operated under the control of 19th BG during early '42, and some of the LB-30 found their way into this group.

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b24_5.html

If you cross reference with Mauer, it turns out the following squadrons used the LB-30:

6 BG:

3rd, 25th, 395th, 397th BS

19 BG:

14th, 28th, 30th, 435th BS

7 BG:

9th, 11th, 22nd BS

If we accept Baugher's numbers on A/C allocation, it follow that 6th BG averaged 4.25 A/C pr. sqd, while 7th/19th BG averaged 2.14 A/C pr.sqd. In all cases did the LB-30's serve alongside, or to be precise, supplement one or more other aircraft types (B-17's mainly), which was a fairly common state of affairs for USAAF bomber units during this period.

We can only model one A/C type pr. sqd at a time in WitP. Logically that should be the majority A/C. Based on the evidence available to me (which, I'll admit, isn't conclusive), it would seem that the LB-30 doesn't fit this definiton in even a single case. IMO the LB-30 should be scrapped altogether while representing the airframes with an increase of the B-17/B-18 pool.

It doesn't help either that 6th BG operation exclusively in the CZ during the time it flew LB-30's.

ORIGINAL: wdolson

Just cheked, and I stand corrected. Though the armament of the 47th should be changed to 2x 7.7mm and 2x 12.7mm. The production Mk IIb had 4x 12.7mm, though the later IIc had either 4x 20mm or 2x 12.7mm and 2x 40mm. I haven't seen which was the most common model yet. For changing the armamment of the 47th, you could do what el cid has been doing with RHS and edit the unit's aircraft armamnet.

I would upgun the Tojo to 4x 20mm and modify the 47th with the weaker armamnet since the 20mm armed version was probably the most important.

Bill

A total of 1,175 Ki-44-II's were producted. Of these, a total of 400 were IIc's and IIc-Kai's. The IIc was armed with 2x12.7mm, 2x20mm. The IIc-Kai's came with either 2x12.7mm + 2x37mm, 2x12.7mm + 2x40mm or 4x40mm (ouch!). 765 KI-44-IIb's were produced, making it the main production model. The remaining 10 A/C were prototypes.

This according to Bueschel, Richard M.: Nakajima Ki.44 Shoki IA, B, C/IIA, B, C in Japanese Army Air Force Service. Osprey 1971.