Consumers: Call to "Arms"!

[LarryP]

ORIGINAL: Son_of_Montfort

Not to be "preachy" but I have always found, when sending letters of complaint, putting the most positive slant possible gets the best results. For example, this style is much more effective:

Son of Montfort

Amen brother! Seriously now, that is an excellent post and you are 101% correct! [:)] I have done it both ways, never to go back to the bitchy one.

[7A_CavScout]

This is what is wrong with the current new breed of gamers - lack of patience and will power. They expect everything to be handed to them quickly and without a glitch. And like a child, they throw a tantrum when they don't get what they want or right away.

The game has only been out for a short time and with todays PC systems having so many options for security, networking and whatever else, one could expect to have some problems arise. But, you have to give the game developers a chance to work through the problems and find a fix - not an overnight thing to do.

I've had my fair share of problems since buying COI. Couldn't connect for MP either IP direct or BHQ, and still haven't been able to connect to MMCCIII. But I am not discouraged. I've know this Close Combat community for way too long to know that there are too many helpful players around and that I won't be down for long. Just the other day, two great fellow CC players helped me get connected to at least MP on BHQ - a BIG thanks to KWP and Shrecken for all your help. I also know that Matrix or CSO, whom some are dedicated Close Combat players, will not leave anyone out in the cold on this matter. I can rest assured that Matrix, CSO and the CC community are all working hard to resolve this issues as soon as possible.

Have patience. The last thing any of us want to do is lose a Close Combat player.
Come hang out on BHQ, and we'll work together to get each others problems solved one by one.

[Muzrub]

Well good for you.


Its not a matter of losing a player, its mans greivence and he has the right to have it.
You can take your issue's as mellow as you wish, but there seems to be problems.

Man I cant believe this, its been so long- Us in the CC com, have a faith that all is good, the game is great and our belief in the genre is all good- based on our love for CC.

But we have issues, the new version- which we all waited for is not really up to scratch, and we all paid good money for it.
But lets not flog a dead horse, or maybe thats what a re-release was?

[SS_KONIG]

Hello himmelstoss, i totally understand how you feel i'm experiencing the same problems as you, fortunately for me i can play my brother h2h on our home network. Hang in there buddy i'm sure we will get it working eventually and when we do it will be worth the wait.

SS_KONIG

[himmelstoss]

ORIGINAL: SS_KONIG

Hello himmelstoss, i totally understand how you feel i'm experiencing the same problems as you, fortunately for me i can play my brother h2h on our home network. Hang in there buddy i'm sure we will get it working eventually and when we do it will be worth the wait.

SS_KONIG

Thx SS_KONIG,

I actually have found a way to solve the issue. I just disconnected my Airport and went directly into my modem. And oh wonder it worked and I played a bunch via mmcc3, and it was a blast!

I still think its sucks that one has to be a PC-Super-Geek to configure the router with all that IP forward crap. I have read all the links and web-sites that "explain" how to do it, but for a "simpleton" like me who just uses word, a tax program (once a year) and an occasional game here and there its way too over the head.

And before I get some smartass remark about my spelling or grammar skills or that I do not know how to geek out properly in forums, I want to apologize for that right away.
[&o]

Game on,

himmelstoss

[studs]

happy me--
since long time ago I have thrown away routers,firewalls and antivirusprograms.
reason is offcourse probs with onlineplay...
A Simple& solution

[Andrew Williams]

routers,firewalls and antivirusprograms.

These issues should be put forcefully to the makers of these devices/programs.

But then, when you are attacked by a hacker you will blame them for not making their product secure enough.....I guess.

schreck

[Prince of Eckmühl]

ORIGINAL: schrecken

But then, when you are attacked by a hacker you will blame them for not making their product secure enough.....I guess.

Exactly.

I purchased a NAT-router when we subscribed to broadband cable back in 2000. Currently, I have three wired systems on my home LAN. I keep all of them patched and have had zero security problems, NONE.

And I would never, for a moment, consider DMZ the system that I game on. The risk posed would extend beyond it, to the other systems on the LAN, and to other machines on the 'Net that might well fall victim to an infected machine with my name on it.

NAT protects my LAN from all that. This is not to say that I don't cuss it sometimes. Hosting games can be a real headache for even the best informed and equipped gamer. It's just the price that we have to pay for sharing cyber-space with vandals and thieves.

PoE (aka ivanmoe)

[e_barkmann]

my router's firewall logs indicate regular, daily, port scans from all over the world.

Not having a firewall in place is like leaving your front door open at home.

cheers Chris

[Beeblebrox]

Connecting to the Internet without protection is like playing Russian Roulette where on every spin, you add another bullet to the chamber...
 
In a study done at some establishment (University/Company/someone - can't remember the details), an experiment was conducted into the volatility of the Internet.
 
They connected a range of machines to the Internet without any protection.  The first compromise happened in around 4 minutes!
 
[:-]
 
There are 24x7 Robots trawling the Internet, and people behind them who are prepared to follow up.
 
Even on a DMZ you should try to have a local firewall running if you can.  Anti-virus/Spyware also a must (are you going to do messaging and web browsing while on the DMZ?).
 
It's shark infested digital waters out there...
 

It's just the price that we have to pay for sharing cyber-space with vandals and thieves

Indeed!

[Waffen_88]

Well I have to say I simply disagree with some of the comments here. I've been writing multiplayer games since 1982 and it isn't rocket science to make these things work with routers or play well with firewalls. Most other games on the market are able to handle this.

Am I angry? No. I am disappointed though. I had hoped to see the developers upgrade the multiplayer code to deal with the problems which have been known since day one.

Will it work? Probably. But most gamers don't want to have to rewire their house or spend 6 hours getting it to go. I myself spent a day getting it to work (upgrading to Win XP to get MMCCIII working, then playing with my router settings, then contacting my ISP and changing my service) and I actually do this stuff for a living. I've never had a problem connecting with any game OTHER than CC3 and I play a lot of them. I can't imagine any of my more casual gaming buddies standing for this.

To say that this game doesn't have problems or that it not working is the fault of the users is disingenuous and untrue. To say that you didn't have time to upgrade this code to today's standard is fine. Make sure users know they will not be able to run MMCCIII if they're running Win 2000. Make sure users know that some people will not be able to play this due to their ISP or network topology. Charge $20 for what is essentially a 10 year old game repackaged with 3rd party addons and some upgrades and is not guaranteed to work instead of $40 and claiming this is a rewrite.

I'm not going to ask for my money back. I just hope they use it to improve this in ways that make it playable for more than the 15 die hard gamers who are willing to put the time in.

[Bluntman420]

I have also just purchased this game and it is in bad shape. Nothing works on it right. I made a mistake when I bought this.

[vonB]

I have also read this post and it is in bad shape.  Nothing sensible to work on.  I made a mistake when I read this.
 
Do you mean nothing works on it right, or did you have anything specific to mention?  It could be that my sarcasm is misplaced?

[Pford]

Frankly, the multiplayer element was what attracted me to COI in the first place. But I'm having fun with it sans mp anyway; I discovered a beguiling time waster. Though I expect CC6, when it sees the light of day, to be bullet-proof in this domain.