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ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

This is getting to be a real sore spot for me. Playing Allies in very late 42. I have about a 6 or 7 hex area I know to be rich in Japanese submarine targets. I spot at least 2 or 3 everyday. I have over 120 bombers, with experience in the high 70s on naval search and ASW at 2000 feet. I also have 3 Cat squadrons flying naval search at 5,000-7,000 feet....tons of supply large AF. After 5 turns I have gotten ZERO attacks, much less hits.

I bet in a month I don't get 3 attacks on subs in the entire theater, virtually never a hit and certainly never a kill.[:@]

What can I realistically do given the game mechanics to get a better outcome [&:]

Sincerely,
One Frustrated Sub Killer

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

I am starting to think a distinction should be made. It appears that by mid-43 or 44 the Allies have considerably better ASW weapons. My question is what can they do from mid 42 through mid 43 about subs. Dive bombers aren't much of an option because what few LBA dive bombers I get aren't stationed in the areas the subs are located. I can't see reworking my entire defensive scheme to make them available either.

Historically weren't tactical level bombers like A-20s and B-25s used in the anti-sub role, along with Cats of course? I wonder if in the game DBs do well because they attack from an altitude of 200 feet. Has anyone tried setting LBA to 100 feet?

Again, I'm not really expecting to sink subs all the time, but a few actual attacks would be nice. So far my pilots have just been overflying them and waving.

I am starting to think a distinction should be made. It appears that by mid-43 or 44 the Allies have considerably better ASW weapons. My question is what can they do from mid 42 through mid 43 about subs. Dive bombers aren't much of an option because what few LBA dive bombers I get aren't stationed in the areas the subs are located. I can't see reworking my entire defensive scheme to make them available either.

Historically weren't tactical level bombers like A-20s and B-25s used in the anti-sub role, along with Cats of course? I wonder if in the game DBs do well because they attack from an altitude of 200 feet. Has anyone tried setting LBA to 100 feet?

Again, I'm not really expecting to sink subs all the time, but a few actual attacks would be nice. So far my pilots have just been overflying them and waving.

ORIGINAL: KDonovan

I am starting to think a distinction should be made. It appears that by mid-43 or 44 the Allies have considerably better ASW weapons. My question is what can they do from mid 42 through mid 43 about subs. Dive bombers aren't much of an option because what few LBA dive bombers I get aren't stationed in the areas the subs are located. I can't see reworking my entire defensive scheme to make them available either.

Historically weren't tactical level bombers like A-20s and B-25s used in the anti-sub role, along with Cats of course? I wonder if in the game DBs do well because they attack from an altitude of 200 feet. Has anyone tried setting LBA to 100 feet?

Again, I'm not really expecting to sink subs all the time, but a few actual attacks would be nice. So far my pilots have just been overflying them and waving.

in 1942-43 why use only aircraft?? You should be basing MSW/PG/SC/DD's at each base in the Central, South Pacific. When a sub is spotted by your planes. Send in the ASW TF groups to take them out. Most of my sub kills (as the Allies) came from DC's before 1943.

• B-18 Bolo
• PV-1 Ventura
• PV-2 Harpoon
• PBY Catalina
• PB4Y-1 Liberator
• PBM Mariner
• TBD Devastators
• SBD Dauntless
• TBF/M Avenger
• J2F Duck
• JRF Goose
• FM-1 Wildcat
• FM-2 Wildcat
• OS2U Kingfisher
• J4F Widgeon-Primarly a USCG ASW aircraft

• Lockheed Hudson
• Avro Anson
• De Havilland Mosquito
• Bristol Beaufighters
• Bristol Beaufort
• Fairey Swordfish