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Missing files can be added to the first patch then everyone who did the DD would be on par with those purchasing the box copy.

I kind of asked myself this question:
 
If I had a choice would I purchase and download for the full price an early build (albeit 95-99% of the proper version), or wait and purchase a full build when available?
 
My answer is, and always will be, the full build option.  Especially when paying the full price. 
 
It does worry me that I have a version that is going to differ from the bulk of the released disks.  Alright there maybe a patch...but in a year or two will this lead to a mix up if wanting to install it again.  I have no problem with patches.  Usually they are very much appreciated and now days you kind of expect some kind of patch, especially from enthusiast wargame developers.  However, this is a patch to bring it up to the advertised start point.  Not a patch to bring it to an enhanced 1.01 or 1a version, a patch to bring it to 0!
 
As it is my first ever download purchased game I did have reservations initially - mainly that I couldn't save it to disk for furture use. 
 
I hope this post doesn't sound too caustic.  The game is fantastic - and I very much appreciate the effort that has been put into it.  I just want what I initially thought I purchased - a download of the proper build. 

If you just want the DD get it now. However if you have your heart set on an actual you will have to wait.

'As it is my first ever download purchased game I did have reservations initially - mainly that I couldn't save it to disk for furture use. '

I copied my D/L to CD ok.

Have payed with PayPal, downloaded for a little more than one hour. All was fine, Matrix CS-Version runs under WinXP! Will see what it´s new or different to the "old" games and i´m sure that the following Updates will eleminate the problems.

Stefan

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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins



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ORIGINAL: mrscaz
Will we (people who already bought the game) be able to download the full game again with the updates in place or will we just be able to download the update itself?
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Whichever you prefer.
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Brilliant - that is what I have been wanting to hear. Very fair. [:)]

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Nik
 
From another part of the forum.  Logical and very fair. 

ORIGINAL: asiaticus

The scenarios and linked campaign game from Imperial Strike are there.

Thats great, thanks for the update!

Hi Guys

I own East Front 2 and West Front. Enjoy both games but found the (original) campaigns to be very poor. Basically a serious of random encounters using the same unit. Does this release have a better campaign mode?

ORIGINAL: darken92

Hi Guys

I own East Front 2 and West Front. Enjoy both games but found the (original) campaigns to be very poor. Basically a serious of random encounters using the same unit. Does this release have a better campaign mode?

No. The Dynamic Campaigns were not revised.

I would recommend playing the Linked Campaigns. They are vastly superior to the Dynamic Campaigns, actually "telling a story", and tend to be more challenging.

The Dynamic Campaigns are completely random. Hopefully this is something we will look into in a future update.

Jason Petho

Can you tell me in what scenarios or campaigns I can find some of these new uits? Especially would like to see the trains, scout planes and ships in action.
Also, you mention all of these as well...please, I really don't want to digthrough all the gaes to find them...
Variety of units that operate on rails; supply, troop, armoured, AA and escort trains, plus armoured cars that ran on rails!
Commissars for the Soviets, Political Officers for the Germans
Scouting, Sniper and Molotov Squads!
Coastal Batteries with proper graphics!
And so much more!
Trains for Poles

Thanks much!

ORIGINAL: John in SoFla

Can you tell me in what scenarios or campaigns I can find some of these new uits? Especially would like to see the trains, scout planes and ships in action.
Also, you mention all of these as well...please, I really don't want to digthrough all the gaes to find them...
Variety of units that operate on rails; supply, troop, armoured, AA and escort trains, plus armoured cars that ran on rails!
Commissars for the Soviets, Political Officers for the Germans
Scouting, Sniper and Molotov Squads!
Coastal Batteries with proper graphics!
And so much more!
Trains for Poles

Thanks much!

None yet, but there are a number in the works which will be released with 1.03, 1.04 and so on.

Jason Petho

Dose the "new" series bring in new OOBs for the "factions", becuse in the orginal game German Panzer Battalions did not even have HQ companys even though they have a fair amount of units that could be used ingame. (only 2 tank platoons, 2 platoons of infantry, and a flak platoon)
 
Is there a list of the units that have been added? perticurly for the germans?

ORIGINAL: Nebfer

Dose the "new" series bring in new OOBs for the "factions", becuse in the orginal game German Panzer Battalions did not even have HQ companys even though they have a fair amount of units that could be used ingame. (only 2 tank platoons, 2 platoons of infantry, and a flak platoon)

Is there a list of the units that have been added? perticurly for the germans?

I don't have a complete listing of the new units yet, although will probably be included in Excel format with 1.04 when it is released.

There are many new units, and the German structure has been revised from company to division (the HQ companies you mention are now included).

If there is a particular unit you are interested in, I can look to see if it exists in the current 1.03 platoon file. There are hundreds of units.

Jason Petho

well off the top of my head
what are the new units in the Sd.kfz 251 series? Like the 251/10, 251/17 and 251/21. (Also is the 250 a seprate unit now or is it still genericly added into the 251?)
Kugelblitz 
E-series
German infantry -are there diffrent sized MG units and are there late war platoons? (i.e like the sturm platoons refured to in their KstN's) and are there panzerfaust equiped calvery platoons and the like (there was a fair amout of non-panzer faust equiped infantry platoons avalible in 1945 in the orginal game).

ORIGINAL: Nebfer

well off the top of my head
what are the new units in the Sd.kfz 251 series? Like the 251/10, 251/17 and 251/21. (Also is the 250 a seprate unit now or is it still genericly added into the 251?)

A quick list of halftrack types that will be available with 1.03:
SPW 251/1 - Talonsoft Halftracks
SPW 251/1 (***) - has higher VPs and higher firepower - basically gives the MG normal MG firepower
SPW 250/1 (***) - has higher VPs and higher firepower - basically gives the MG normal MG firepower
SPW 250/9
SPW 251/2
SPW 250/7
SPW 251/9
SPW 250/8
SPW 250/10
SPW 250/11
SPW 251/16
SPW 251/17
SPW 251/21
SPW 251/22
Panzerwerfer 42
Panzerwerfer 251/1
SdKfz 10/4 .
SdKfz 10/5
SdKfz 7/1
SdKfz 6/2
SdKfz 7
SdKfz 8
SdKfz 10
SdKfz 11

ORIGINAL: Nebfer
Kugelblitz 

This is included with 1.03 as well as the SdKfz 2 Kettenkraftrad

ORIGINAL: Nebfer
E-series

These can be included with 1.04

ORIGINAL: Nebfer
German infantry -are there diffrent sized MG units and are there late war platoons? (i.e like the sturm platoons refured to in their KstN's) and are there panzerfaust equiped calvery platoons and the like (there was a fair amout of non-panzer faust equiped infantry platoons avalible in 1945 in the orginal game).

A quick list of infantry types that will be available with 1.03:

Schützen 30
Schützen 35
Schützen 37a
Schützen 37b
Schützen 39 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Schützen 40 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Schützen 41 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Schützen 43 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Ost (Hiwi)
Volksgr 44
Volkssturm
Mot Schützen 37 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Mot Schützen 40 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Mot Schützen 41 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Mot Schützen 42 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Mot Schützen 43 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Pzgr 42 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Pzgr 44 (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Pzgr 44 (Bicycle) (Stock - Green - Veteran)
Para Inf 40
Para Inf 44
Para Inf 45
MG Sqd
MG Pltn
MG Pltn (Bicycle)
Polizie
Security Pltn 35
Security Pltn 44
Eng Pltn 30
Eng Pltn 41
Goliath
Brandenburger (R)
Cav Pltn
Mtcl Pltn
Mtcl Pltn 43
Mtcl MG Pltn
Schützen (Bicycle)
Grenadier 44 (Bicycle)
Panzerbüchsen 39
Panzerschrecke
Sturm Pltn (Stock - Green - Veteran)
SS Mot Rifle
SS Para Inf
SS Grenadier
SS Pzgr 42
SS Pzgr 44
SS MG Pltn
SS MG Sqd
SS Eng Pltn
SS Cav Pltn
SS Mtcl Pltn
SS Mtcl MG Pltn
SS Bicl Pltn
Ski Eng Pltn
Ski MG Pltn
SS Jaeger Ski Pltn
SS Ski Eng Pltn
SS Ski MG Pltn
Construction Engineer
Rail Eng Pltn
Bridging Engineer
Werkstattzug
Sniper
Patrol/Scout
Civilians
Personage

Hope that helps

Jason Petho

Thanks, it looks like I might be willing to get my self an 'upgrade" (I.e buy the game) some time soon.

I asume the  (Stock - Green - Veteran) refures to platoons of the same type that have slightly diffrent stats?

as for the halftracks we have
251/1 (base)
251/1 HMG (same firepower as a MG platoon i take it?)
251/1 Rocket (Walking Stuka)
251/2 81mm mortar
251/9 "Stummel" (75mm L24 howitzer -Assault gun)
251/16 Flamethrower
251/17 20mm AA
251/21 (Flak Drilling) 3x 15mm or 20mm AA
251/22 (pak wagon -75mm Pak 40)

250/1 APC (HMG?)
250/7 81mm mortar carrier
250/8 "Stummel" 75mm L24 howitzer -assault gun
250/9 Recon with 20mm Autocannon
250/10 platoon cmder track -37mm Pak 36
250/11 platoon cmder track -28mm ATG

very nice [&o]


all that could be added are the Engineer vehicles (251/5 & 251/7) and maby the 251/6 (command track)

ORIGINAL: Nebfer

Thanks, it looks like I might be willing to get my self an 'upgrade" (I.e buy the game) some time soon.

I asume the  (Stock - Green - Veteran) refures to platoons of the same type that have slightly diffrent stats?

That is correct. Same platoon with different assault, defence, weapon stats.

(A new, 1.03 feature)

Jason Petho