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RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:45 am
by freeboy
Interesting tid bit, lt dike, is that the empty shirt dufus lt? In the series I think he dies, and the book he is seen promoted and having a sstaff position... some things never change.. as for winters... well, many think he should have received a Medal of Honor for the attacks during the first week of Dday, and I do think the feild attack in holland was perhaps the most herioc.. where the smoke to signal the men fails and he charges allone into the germans.. It would be interesting to see if THAT actually happened! GREAT Series !
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:00 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Gil R.
Ahh, the beauty of owning a DVD-recorder and subscribing to HBO -- I've got the series and documentary on about $2 worth of blank DVD's...
You know, this thread reminds me: a few weeks ago I was on another forum and saw some posts by people complaining that the story told was somewhat inaccurate, in that Ambrose pretty much highlighted the performance of one unit and thus minimized the roles played by other units in the same battles and theaters. Does anyone out there think there's something to this?
If a guy in a REMF unit is frustrated that HIS unit has never been in a feature film, of course he might feel slighted, but then, maybe the exploits of the 9162nd Mess Kit Repair Company,(Handle Platoon) may not have performed such a steller deed as the 101st??
The film is of course a "must have", and IMHO treated both sides with respect..
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:59 pm
by JudgeDredd
ORIGINAL: m10bob
If a guy in a REMF
haha - I havn't heard REMF in years!!
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:04 pm
by BAL
...but then, maybe the exploits of the 9162nd Mess Kit Repair Company,(Handle Platoon) may not have performed such a steller deed as the 101st??
Maybe not, but they could sure beat those airborne guys in a cussin' contest.
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:17 pm
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: BAL
...but then, maybe the exploits of the 9162nd Mess Kit Repair Company,(Handle Platoon) may not have performed such a steller deed as the 101st??
Maybe not, but they could sure beat those airborne guys in a cussin' contest.
That is true....But we must allow LEGS to compensate for their short-comings somehow![:D]
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:00 pm
by andym
Saw the Tin boxed set in Norwich HMV for £23!!!!Its a great series and some excelelnt performances by some of our great BRITISH actors!And it was made mostly in the UK!!
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:56 am
by Plodder
ORIGINAL: andym
Saw the Tin boxed set in Norwich HMV for £23!!!!Its a great series and some excelelnt performances by some of our great BRITISH actors!And it was made mostly in the UK!!
Yep,mainly shot at Hatfield. I signed up to be an extra on it but my flatmates at the time forgot to pass on the phone message to me for the start date [:@] Would have been an awesome experience..
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:23 am
by Rune Iversen
ORIGINAL: Gil R.
You know, this thread reminds me: a few weeks ago I was on another forum and saw some posts by people complaining that the story told was somewhat inaccurate, in that Ambrose pretty much highlighted the performance of one unit and thus minimized the roles played by other units in the same battles and theaters. Does anyone out there think there's something to this?
There is a lot of truth to this. But if you want to capture the grittiness of WW2 small unit action you have to limit your perspective by necessity. If it had been the goal of the series to describe the grand strategic narrative of the war, but chosing only to focus on the 101st, it would have been something else.
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:27 pm
by Warfare1
I just finished watching all 10 episodes of BoB.
Just outstanding. It stands head and shoulders above most war movies made for the theaters. There are just so many great moments, far too many to list here.
This is a series I am going to watch over-and-over again. It is easily worth 10 times what I paid for it. I'm now going to watch the documentaries on the bonus disc.
Hard to believe this was made for TV.
With Father's Day right around the corner, I don't think you could give a better, longer-lasting gift, than this series.
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:10 pm
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: KG Erwin
I case you didn't know, I've been a member of the Pacific War forum almost since its inception. I'm really looking forward to "The Pacific" miniseries. Much of it will be filmed in Australia.
Any idea of what this miniserie title will be, or where to look at informations about it ?
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:03 am
by Warfare1
ORIGINAL: Froonp
ORIGINAL: KG Erwin
I case you didn't know, I've been a member of the Pacific War forum almost since its inception. I'm really looking forward to "The Pacific" miniseries. Much of it will be filmed in Australia.
Any idea of what this miniserie title will be, or where to look at informations about it ?
Check my first post in this thread for info and links.
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:35 am
by Fredk
I like the fact they used relatively unknown actors. Made it feel more authentic.
Yes, I particularly enjoy that part where little known cult actor Jimmy Fallon shows up in the jeep as says, "Ok guys, you're surrounded - and now for the fake news..." [:@]. Honestly, that came very close to ruining the whole series for me.
Also, don't get me wrong I love the series, but I'm surprised there hasn't been any criticism of the over all hokey nature of the series and the blatant hagiography of the American soliders. After all it is well known that Ambrose was a lot better at writing what the general public wanted to hear than a fair account of what actually happened.
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:27 pm
by Warfare1
ORIGINAL: Fredk
I like the fact they used relatively unknown actors. Made it feel more authentic.
Yes, I particularly enjoy that part where little known cult actor Jimmy Fallon shows up in the jeep as says, "Ok guys, you're surrounded - and now for the fake news..." [:@]. Honestly, that came very close to ruining the whole series for me.
Also, don't get me wrong I love the series, but I'm surprised there hasn't been any criticism of the over all hokey nature of the series and the blatant hagiography of the American soliders. After all it is well known that Ambrose was a lot better at writing what the general public wanted to hear than a fair account of what actually happened.
I always consider war movies and series like this one to be
representative of what happened in the war. Nothing more, nothing less, despite any factual claims of the movie makers.
This series works, at least for me on that basis.
Yes, there will always be inconsistencies and errors in everything.
Perhaps I am a bit more forgiving, but I try not to let a 15 second sentence ruin a 10 hour series for me.
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:18 pm
by anarchyintheuk
ORIGINAL: Fredk
Also, don't get me wrong I love the series, but I'm surprised there hasn't been any criticism of the over all hokey nature of the series and the blatant hagiography of the American soliders. After all it is well known that Ambrose was a lot better at writing what the general public wanted to hear than a fair account of what actually happened.
I guess it depends on what you want to see. I noticed the opposite. For every Winters there was a Nix (demoted for drinking), Spiers (looter and possible war criminal), Peacock and Seames (incompetent) and Sink (glory seeker). It does follow the standard hollywood convention of "Officer . . Bad . . . NCO . . . Good". That hardly makes the series an exception.
As to whether or not Ambrose wrote an accurate description of what happened . . . I don't know. I will now step out of the line of fire.
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:18 pm
by Fredk
Eh, fair comment anarchyintheuk, but I felt like most of those things seemed pretty contrived - as in the producer/director look at the story and thought, "Well, no one is going to buy this load of Ambrose 'Greatest Generation' BS so we better dirty it up a bit." Seems like they just papered over the "Here are brave boys come to save the day," story line with a few, "Oh look, they're aren't perfect," moments.
On the Spears thing, I felt like they made it pretty clear at the end that he hadn't killed the prisoners and was just using that rumour to his advantage.
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:25 pm
by dexbox
incredible series, i just rewatched it recently as well, i cant think of a mini series since that has came close to being as good as b.o.b
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:28 pm
by CJMello63
The Pacific theater one should come close.
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:49 pm
by dexbox
i havent heard anything about it, what's it about??
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:32 am
by Warfare1
ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk
ORIGINAL: Fredk
Also, don't get me wrong I love the series, but I'm surprised there hasn't been any criticism of the over all hokey nature of the series and the blatant hagiography of the American soliders. After all it is well known that Ambrose was a lot better at writing what the general public wanted to hear than a fair account of what actually happened.
I guess it depends on what you want to see. I noticed the opposite. For every Winters there was a Nix (demoted for drinking), Spiers (looter and possible war criminal), Peacock and Seames (incompetent) and Sink (glory seeker). It does follow the standard hollywood convention of "Officer . . Bad . . . NCO . . . Good". That hardly makes the series an exception.
As to whether or not Ambrose wrote an accurate description of what happened . . . I don't know. I will now step out of the line of fire.
Movies and such are subjective, but I do agree with you. I tended to look at some of the characters as archetypes.
There are great trainers, or people who do well in school work, but who aren't good doing practical things in the field, such as the Captain Sobel.
Winters, although based on a real character, reminded me of that quiet, competent person you could depend on, etc...
Dale Dye was great as always. Here is a commander I would gladly follow into battle. He just seems like the type of guy who will never get a scratch....
RE: *** Band of Brothers - Revisited ***
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:35 am
by Warfare1
ORIGINAL: dexbox
i havent heard anything about it, what's it about??
Check for info in the first post in this thread.