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ORIGINAL: Juggalo



GAME : East Front

NATIONALITY : Roosky

UNIT NAME : 82mm Mortars

SCENARIO IN WHICH THE PROBLEM WAS FIRST NOTED : 1st scenario in Black Hearts LCG

NATURE OF THE PERCEIVED PROBLEM : picture and outline don't match

ORIGINAL: qbert55

Patch 1.02

Scenario: Battle of the Outpost
Allies (Dutch): All spotted Axis Units appear as ? and artillery is unable to fire.

ORIGINAL: Erik Nygaard

This is in the 2nd scenario 'Advance on Tebourba' of the LCG '10th Pz in Tunis' (I think its called).
Just revealed hex 30,25 the instant I called for smoke in the hex.

Erik

Edit: patch 1.02

ORIGINAL: Jason Petho

ORIGINAL: Erik Nygaard

This is in the 2nd scenario 'Advance on Tebourba' of the LCG '10th Pz in Tunis' (I think its called).
Just revealed hex 30,25 the instant I called for smoke in the hex.

Erik

Edit: patch 1.02

Did you add the 1.02a temporary update as well? Not that it should matter, but maybe!

Jason Petho

ORIGINAL: qbert55

Thanks. Here's another:

Panzers on the Pcic.

Allies (Russians) played by AI.

Mounted calvary units take opportunity fire on German PVs and get caught in an endless loop (repeat firing, game effectively locks up).[X(]

ORIGINAL: Erik Nygaard

If I remember correctly, in the old versions you could set opportunity fire both globally for the three main unit types and also for each selected unit.
Anyway, you can't now. the global setting overrides local unit setting.

Patch 1.02 w/add-on

Erik

ORIGINAL: Jason Petho

ORIGINAL: Erik Nygaard

If I remember correctly, in the old versions you could set opportunity fire both globally for the three main unit types and also for each selected unit.
Anyway, you can't now. the global setting overrides local unit setting.

Patch 1.02 w/add-on

Erik

If global op fire settings are set lower than unit op fire settings, then the global opfire settings will override the unit op fire settings.

If global op fire settings are set higher, then the unit op fire settings should override.

Jason Petho

ORIGINAL: Erik Nygaard

I see, thanks for clearing that up.
BTW, op fire is one thing that the AI performs pretty badly. It looks like all unit type settings are set on long range for all units.
This means that ie AT fire long range on inf units thereby revealing themselves.
In the future it would be nice if a scenario op fire could be set by the designer making the AI a bit smarter.

ORIGINAL: Patrick Brett

West Front,
Scenario design aid,

Topic: Setting opportunity fire ranges for the AI.

All opportunity fire is rooted in the .scn or saved game file. After a game is
saved, West Front uses the saved game file as the new scenario file. Although not
handled by the supplied scenario editor, you can manually edit your .scn file to
adjust opp fire ranges. You can do this for BOTH global and individual
opportunity (opp) fire. Global is much easier.

Global Opp fire setting:

Open the *.scn file
Look for the lines which read:
*.map
*.oob
The next two lines are global opp fire settings.

Example from Arnhem.scn:
7
Red Devils at Arnhem
0 1 0 60
0 0 0 0 10
0 0 2 6 65 85
1
-50 0 50 100 6
50 90 0 0
Arnhem.map
Arnhem.org
3 1 2 1 0 0 1 1 2 <---- Allied Opp fire
3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 <---- Axis Opp fire

The first set of 9 numbers is ALWAYS set for the Allied side.
The 2nd set of 9 is for the Axis side.

The sequence of numbers is read:
{HV-HT} {HV-SV} {HV-Other} {ATAA-HT} {ATAA-SV} {ATAA-Other} {Other-HV} {Other-SV}
{Other-Other}
HV=Hard Vehicle, SV=Soft Vehicle, ATAA=Anti-tank Hvy AA, etc...

The numbers denote:
0 - No opp fire
1 - Short range
2 - Medium range
3 - Long range

Example:
3 1 2 1 0 0 1 1 2

What is the opp fire setting for infantry versus infantry?

Other versus other is set at 2: denoting Medium range.


Individual Opp fire:

Handling unit opp fire is tricky. I'll display an example line from an existing
scenario file.

0 13 14 1036 926 4 4 6 100 7 0 1024 3 3 3
^^^^^ ^^^^^
Location Opp fire

The unit is located in hex 13,14 (0 13 14)
The unit has opp fire set to long range in all fields (3 3 3)

If you want to set individual opp fire, you need to determine the hex location of
the unit an adjust the final 3 numbers.

The final three numbers represent:
Firing at - HT / SV / Other

Note: Global opp fire override's individual opp fire. It would be a great burden
to go through each and every unit entry to reselect opp fire ranges on a per unit
basis. But, if you have a "special" circumstance, you might want to find the unit
in your *.scn file and adjust the opp fire for it.

While creating a scenario, it is wise to place your "special" opp firing units on
the map first, write down the hexes they are in, save the scenario, and then edit
your scenario file with a text editor.

-Patrick Brett

ORIGINAL: vadersson
Is there some article that explains all the codes in the SCN files?

ORIGINAL: Cpl. Henshaw

Cpl. Henshaw

Jason,
  I first started playing East Front back when it first came out, on a Win 95 pc, so I can remember some challenges. Anyway I recently got and applied the 1.02 patch, and now, all the screen colors are scewing to od green, and a scenario set in Latvia, I started working on, will no longer open in the scenario editor, and a saved game of the scenario no longer opens either. Every thing was working fine with the 1.01 patch. But now with the 1.02 I am having problems for the first time. It is discouraging to start putting a lot of work into creating a scenario, and then, see a new patch, cause it not to open anymore.
Any suggestions? Wait til 1.03? Not sure, if I should do a reinstall, and just work with 1.01.
Thanks, for helping gamers all these years,
Yours,
John