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ORIGINAL: Kid

I asked this same question several days ago and got one reply.

oh, sorry - i didn't see it! The title of the thread caught my eye this time...

EDIT - well, you got the answer (eventually)... [:'(]

I installed a trial version of Mojopac on a 2GB memory stick (USB drive, thumb drive, whatever.) Read the install instructions carefully! Tuned my USB connection for best performance. Copied the WITP installation and update files to it.

When you start Mojopac you have an XP_like interface. The C drive as presented in here is in fact the memory stick.

Obviously it uses RAM and processing power from the host system, in my case a Dell 620 with 1GB of RAM and dual core 1.8GHz processor. I've been waiting over an hour now and so far the installation is thus:

ORIGINAL: sprior

I installed a trial version of Mojopac on a 2GB memory stick (USB drive, thumb drive, whatever.) Read the install instructions carefully! Tuned my USB connection for best performance. Copied the WITP installation and update files to it.

When you start Mojopac you have an XP_like interface. The C drive as presented in here is in fact the memory stick.

Obviously it uses RAM and processing power from the host system, in my case a Dell 620 with 1GB of RAM and dual core 1.8GHz processor. I've been waiting over an hour now and so far the installation is thus:

Wow, that is slow....I've been watching it for 10 minutes and in hasn't moved.[:D]

[:D] [:D]

So you got Mojopac to work hopefully. What if you move the USB drive to another computer - will it run then - or does WiTP miss items in the Windows registry?

/rudbeck47

There is another alternative though I'm not sure how practical you will find it.



This is a screenshot of WITP running in a virtual machine (Note WITP running under Win98 running on an XP machine).

The software required is a free download of VMware but you will need an operating system to load as well.

The pros??

• Everything is file based and absolutely independant of host machine. (I only needed a 2GB virtual hard disk file for WITP running on minimum install Win98).
• Any registry entries are in the virtual hard disk file along with the operating system.
• Runs under Linux as well (with Linux version of VMware).
• WITP seems to run quite quickly and satisifactorily (with a graphics glitch - see below)
• You can snapshot and capture and save (for replay) the whole machine (including the state of your game) at any point in time.

The cons???

• DirectX seems to be a bit problematic but the only the images with a shadow file seem to be affected (see aircraft images above). If you run with animations off you won't notice.
• Large amounts of the virtual hard drive is taken up with OS files (Linux Operating Systems can be stripped down into a 100K or so kernal but I doubt Windows will be so flexible).
• Probably not as fast as a real machine but if the host has the same processor as the target machine, emulation should not be much slower than the real thing...
• Probably the biggie: VMware needs to be installed on your machine!!! (Sprior, what do sysadmins think of this program???)

More info on this thread: WiTP on Linux

EDIT: VMware also make a free Virtual Machine Player which runs precreated Virtual Machines (files). Maybe sysadmins might be a bit more tolerant of this program (Sprior????).

I have not experimented with running these programs on a memory stick but the virtual machine (data) file should quite happily live on one. Unfortunately most windows executables need to be installed to run. Maybe someone will be able to find out if VMplayer will work from a memory stick.

Oh take me back to my old Amiga days were I just used to load any program (or OS file) I liked up into a RAM drive and run them from there. All you had to do was redirect a couple of system assigns (usually with a script I'd written) to point at the ram drive and away they went!! No disk access at all.

{Brought to you in the interests of protecting the environment by recycling threads} [:D]

whoops... wrong button!! [X(]

ORIGINAL: rudbeck47

So you got Mojopac to work hopefully. What if you move the USB drive to another computer - will it run then - or does WiTP miss items in the Windows registry?

/rudbeck47

i haven't actually tried this, but the whole point of the Mojopac program is to "put a computer in your pocket" - it is supposed to be utterly portable. Once you get the program on the memory stick, you can go to any (Windows based) machine and use the program on the stick - no more installation required.

So, install WITP on the mem stick, then you can use it at work, on the road, at your brother-in-law's house (assuming you can get to his computer), etc. just from the mem stick.

ORIGINAL: rudbeck47

So you got Mojopac to work hopefully. What if you move the USB drive to another computer - will it run then - or does WiTP miss items in the Windows registry?

/rudbeck47

No, I didn't, I gave up trying to install it after 2 hours. Supposedly you can plug the memory drive into any XP machine and your apps installed on it will work. I haven't tried that yet either.

You also need admin priviledges on the host PC to run this. You might get this on your brother in laws PC but a more doubtful at work.

As a sysadmin I would be hesitant about allowing "normal" users to install or run virtual machines on their PCs. The main reason is because you, meaning me, have no way of monitoring what those machines are doing as they are not on the domain. I can't lock them down or see how much porn you have on them...

Aside from that transporting big .vhd files aound is a pian.

What I would really like to see are games sold already installed on a memory stick. Set up to run from a USB port just by plugging it in with the save file pat already set to the memory stick.

Cartridges for PCs!

ORIGINAL: Kid

What I would really like to see are games sold already installed on a memory stick. Set up to run from a USB port just by plugging it in with the save file pat already set to the memory stick.

Hmmmm... sounds like a business opportunity... [8D]

For information, i have installed the game on a DVD-RAM disk, and it works. Of course, you need a PC with a DVD-RAM read/write device.

ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

ORIGINAL: sprior

I installed a trial version of Mojopac on a 2GB memory stick (USB drive, thumb drive, whatever.) Read the install instructions carefully! Tuned my USB connection for best performance. Copied the WITP installation and update files to it.

When you start Mojopac you have an XP_like interface. The C drive as presented in here is in fact the memory stick.

Obviously it uses RAM and processing power from the host system, in my case a Dell 620 with 1GB of RAM and dual core 1.8GHz processor. I've been waiting over an hour now and so far the installation is thus:

Wow, that is slow....I've been watching it for 10 minutes and in hasn't moved.[:D]

[:D][:D][:D] Laughing..hard..can not....breathe