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ORIGINAL: seille

ORIGINAL: Cpt Kernow
It wasnt Britain or America who defeated the Germans, it was the Russians, that is why the Nazis had 80% of their combat power on the East front. Italy and Normandy were just side shows to the main event.

Oha, you really think this is true ?
That must be a joke ...

Do you know why the russians survived the german attack in ww2 ?

1. The lend lease help
2. The allied bombing (especially fuel and other production)
3. The threat of being attacked in the west

I can´t tell you exact numbers, but the troops (especially armored divisions) which were
forced to protect France for example would have been enough to bring the german 1942
offensive to an end. Same for 1943 Kursk.
Not to forget some bad decisions by Hitler.

ONLY the support of the west made the successful russian 1944 attacks possible. That´s a fact !

ORIGINAL: Cpt Kernow

Lets talk facts. You just speculate.

Fact: 80% of German combat power on East Front
Fact: Russians kill more germans in one month June44 than western Allies kill in entire war 1939-45.
Fact: The western theaters were a side show to the east theater as is evinced by the above two facts.

Massive speculation: I can´t tell you exact numbers (LOL), but the troops (especially armored divisions) which were
forced to protect France for example would have been enough to bring the german 1942 offensive to an end.

Also the idea the allied bombing was haveing a significant effect on German military production in 41 and 42 is totally false. It grew in effectiveness in 43 but was only realy hurting in 44. By then the Germans had allready lost the war anyway.

However even your speculation dosnt change the fact that the Eastern theatre was the main event. Yes what was happening in the west played a part in that event, but those events only play a contributing part to the main event, they do not make the west the most important theatre at any time during the war.

Let us reverse the situation, imagine the Soviets had not won MASSIVE victories at Stalingrad (42) and Kursk, an invasion of mainland France/Italy now becomes utterly impossible however much bombing the western allies engage in. It was only the massive destruction of men and equipment visited on the wehrmacht by the russians that made any invasion of Normandy possible. If the Germans had achieved victories at Stalingrad and Kursk, this would have left the western allies probably only able to achieve a victory via the use of Nuclear weapons.

What happens in the west is only made relevant by its effect on the East. What happens in the west is only made possible by what happens in the East.

ORIGINAL: Awac835

Yes, im also quite certain i saw it mentioned that artillery range can be modified beyond a range of 2 in the editor. Atleast it can in PT.

But im not sure if you will be able to mod in SCUD's ,MLRS's etc. What you would have to do is give a unit strong artillary attack power and range. That all works fine, but im not sure if the supply model is up for it.
I mean say you have SCUDs or MLRSs available to you. You surely wouldnt be able to fire em every single turn like you can now, atleast in PT, given you have enough supply.
Im have no clue how the supply will work out in AT but for one to model strong artillery and cruise missiles i would guess you needed a system like the one in battlefront where you simply cant just nuke away.