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RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:06 pm
by Legionaer
Now, now boys...play nice!!
I´ll do my best Mike. But sometimes there is no other way possible.

Stefan

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:10 pm
by sorrowman
@ H. Balck

With all due respect for your work as a modder, but I think you're seriously pushing it right now

I think your work as archeologist might explain your obsession with re-creating history (and perhaps attempt to draw lessons from that or whatever)

I've been wondering about one thing tho ever since you mentioned you're actually are a teacher. When your giving classes or a lecture of some sorts, do you also dismiss your students as inferior piece of sh*t amateurs when they don't live up to YOUR expectations or don't agree with what you're saying? People are different and you can't expect each and every individual to think and act in exactly the same way you do (even if you think your way is the right way)....I think that's one of the key things being a teacher, accept and be aware of the fact the each human being is different and deal with it.



RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:19 pm
by Dumnorix
sorrowman
That is everything correct, which you say. But this people from "feldzugschmiede" annoys me already for 4 years. I hate incorrect and fictitious working. CS is a historical play and should it also remain.

H.Balck

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:43 pm
by Dumnorix
to all:
Have you actually the smallest conception, how large and enormous this modification is ? I will have mapping completely Europe with 1km = 1 Hex. The operational possibilities and benefitful experiencing of a new strategy by new features in the Multiplayer theatres is enormous.
The Barbarossa Army Group center - map is 1400km to 451km and goes from Brest Litovsk / Suwalki over Minsk to Orsch/Vitebsk and Smolensk/Gomel with all original troops, strenght and the pictures of all officers.
I have also the completly Fall Weiss and Fall Gelb-Multiplayer-scn and many many more. There is no theater, which will not be contained. Also the Pacific and is built up to an enormous Multiplayerscenario, from China to Hawai also over 80 different ship types.

H.Balck



RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:54 pm
by Legionaer
quote:

sorrowman
That is everything correct, which you say. But this people from "feldzugschmiede" annoys me already for 4 years. I hate incorrect and fictitious working. CS is a historical play and should it also remain.

H.Balck

I can´t remember that anyone must activate an account there. No one forces you to play their games. Michael, you´re the greatest! Only the others are guilty. Respect the works and opinions from other members and go your own way.

Ich sagte dir schon mal: Ich hoffe auf eine bugfreie spielbare Version und wünsche dir Erfolg für dein Werk. Aber gehe mit konstruktiver Kritik mit dem gebotenen Respekt um und werde nicht immer wieder ausfallend oder beleidigend! (Ist ja nicht erst seit kurzer Zeit so!) Da sollte ein Lehrer 1. drüber stehen und 2. mit umgehen können.

Mal ehrlich, das immer nur die anderen alles falsch verstehen und keine Ahnung haben ist doch lächerlich.

Regards,
Stefan

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:25 am
by sorrowman
ORIGINAL: Dumnorix
sorrowman
That is everything correct, which you say. But this people from "feldzugschmiede" annoys me already for 4 years. I hate incorrect and fictitious working. CS is a historical play and should it also remain.

H.Balck

Now we're getting somewhere....personal issues with the guys involved with feldzugschmiede, so everyone who mentions them or refers to them only remotely is an idiot right.

As far as the size and plans for your modification, they sound great. But I think it's unfair to assume your project (no matter how big it is) will render every other attempt (no matter how small or inaccurate) at contributing to this series useless and dismiss everyone who's involved in all but your project an amateur, that's just plain arrogance if you ask me. You seem to be taking Deutsche Grundlichkeit very serious here...which is a pity I think.

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:49 am
by Huib
ORIGINAL: Dumnorix

to all:
Have you actually the smallest conception, how large and enormous this modification is ? I will have mapping completely Europe with 1km = 1 Hex. The operational possibilities and benefitful experiencing of a new strategy by new features in the Multiplayer theatres is enormous.
The Barbarossa Army Group center - map is 1400km to 451km and goes from Brest Litovsk / Suwalki over Minsk to Orsch/Vitebsk and Smolensk/Gomel with all original troops, strenght and the pictures of all officers.
I have also the completly Fall Weiss and Fall Gelb-Multiplayer-scn and many many more. There is no theater, which will not be contained. Also the Pacific and is built up to an enormous Multiplayerscenario, from China to Hawai also over 80 different ship types.

H.Balck


But it's a different game on a different scale than CS so it's a different market. I like games on both scales but CS meets PzGen is no alternative to CS, nor is CS an alternative to other games on a different scale. I do hope your project will be released though and to me it will be a welcome alternative to other 1 km scale games such as HPS PzC. Meanwhile why not help us out with your knowledge to keep CS alive. I'm as much interested in historical accuracy in scenarios as you are (that is the reason I started designing in the first place) There is a market for those who play for fun, but there are also quite a large group that is interested in historical accuracy and the historical simulation qualities of the game. Why not serve and help them.

Huib

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:12 am
by Warhorse
I know, Stefan, I'm just messing with you, your a good man!!

Mike

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:26 am
by Legionaer
I know, Stefan, I'm just messing with you, your a good man!!
Mmhhh, ... a good man!! Sometimes i think it, and for the other times ...

All the best,
Stefan

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:23 pm
by Arctic Blast
Dumnorix : I have never denied the immense amount of work you have poured in to your mod. It is truly impressive, honestly, and you have obviously poured your heart and soul in to it, and that is to be commended. My problem has never been with your mod.

My problem has always been with the fact that, while you constantly demand attention and respect for the hard work you have thrown in to development of your own mod, you derisively dismiss the work of everyone else as crap. They are also pouring THEIR OWN PERSONAL TIME in to their mod, the same as you are. Now, you don't like what they're doing, that's fine, but it does not change the fact they are still putting the work in. And it does not make it garbage to be tossed aside simply because you deem it so. Like I said, my problem has never been with your mod or the work you've put in, it's always been with the ridiculous attitude you constantly display towards anyone else involved in mod work.

Again, I suggest that, if you were to simply drop the ego and arrogance, you would probably find yourself and your work more readily accepted by more people.

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:37 pm
by sorrowman
ORIGINAL: Arctic Blast

Dumnorix : I have never denied the immense amount of work you have poured in to your mod. It is truly impressive, honestly, and you have obviously poured your heart and soul in to it, and that is to be commended. My problem has never been with your mod.

My problem has always been with the fact that, while you constantly demand attention and respect for the hard work you have thrown in to development of your own mod, you derisively dismiss the work of everyone else as crap. They are also pouring THEIR OWN PERSONAL TIME in to their mod, the same as you are. Now, you don't like what they're doing, that's fine, but it does not change the fact they are still putting the work in. And it does not make it garbage to be tossed aside simply because you deem it so. Like I said, my problem has never been with your mod or the work you've put in, it's always been with the ridiculous attitude you constantly display towards anyone else involved in mod work.

Again, I suggest that, if you were to simply drop the ego and arrogance, you would probably find yourself and your work more readily accepted by more people.

Even tho I have only been active here for a short while, I can't help but to agree with what you're saying (and I guess it's exactly the point I'm trying to make a few post earlier) The moment I read about MOD's the first thing that really caught my attention was the offensive and agressive attitude of Dumnorix towards people who are involved in putting together projects other then his own.

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:56 pm
by Legionaer
Thank you Artic Blast and sorrowman.

I agree totally with you! That´s exactly the same what other members and i said to him in the german Feldzugschmiede Forum.

Perhaps your sentences will works in his head.

Perhaps he couldn´t like that projects from other people would have more success. Really don´t know but it´s not the first time that he shows these characteristics. The reasons for his reactions ... knows only he.

Stefan

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:01 pm
by british exil
I think it's a shame that so many bad coments have been made here. It used to be so peaceful. The thing is there will always be people who are always ready to find something to complain about. Be it a mod,bug or patch.
It was nice in the past to open the JTCS forum and read of ideas, minor problems that other campaigners were only to willing to assist.
What's happened??? We shouldn't let a few unhappy people spoil our fun.

Let them rant or rave. They are the ones with the big ego problems. This is a gamer community not a medical practice.

Peace to all in the forum, but not on the battlefields.

Mathew

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:36 pm
by Arctic Blast
I agree with you, british...just wanted to say my bit, and as far as I'm concerned, that's that.

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:55 pm
by panda124c
ORIGINAL: Warhorse

Now, now boys...play nice!![:D]

Mike

Or more appropriately:

"Gentlemen you can't fight in here, this is the War Room." [:D]

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:22 pm
by Warhorse
LOL!!![:D]

RE: Another question - campaigns

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:06 pm
by Arctic Blast
LOL. Nice one, pbear. [:D]