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I'd be for it, modern warfare fanatic that I am.

To fix the Apache dominance problem:
a) make sure AAA and SAMs have the appropriate lethality.
b) make sure the other DF weapons (and lucky Indirect Fire for that matter) have the appropriate lethality, and
c) make helos worth about eight billion points.

Well a modern version would be cool but I also think the period is to long for one game so mabye it would be better in at last two versions . And Nam was never modeled well so I would love to get your NAM focused version because this should be great

Yup, a SP Modern Version definitley gets my vote. the 249 units would have to be expanded though, ive done a fair few mobs w/sp2 and ran out of room, especially for the USA and USMC. Maybe SPNAM and a modern warfare version, say 1970s to 2010 or so. Could be really good. Also, for a SPModernWarfare to be half decent, yould really need more countries than the 42 given. Once you start to take in the Cubas, the Bosnias, Croatias, Ethiopias etc as well as the 'States and Russia, youve got a hell of a lot of countries. Great idea, but might tike a hell of a long time.

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Meine Ehre HeiBt Treue

4SSPzRgt "Der Furher", 1939-45

I agree with Infanterie on this one. I'm fine with a modern version (I bought and enjoyed SP2), but I much prefer the WW2 time period.

I think it's great that Matrix is doing SPWAW as a "labor of love" and "to gain a reputation with gamers". It's a great idea and God Bless'em, but in another way I see that as a problem. If you're not generating any revenue from a game, how much continuing resources can you afford to give it to make it better? You have to put your programmers and designers on the games you are selling. I guess I'm just afraid SPWAW will be abandoned after the third "Version" or second "Patch" comes out in order to work on other money producing games.

Hey David, perhaps after your other games are enormously successful, you could afford to buy the rights to the SP series from whoever owns it that month? Then you could sell the improvements you make to the game! As others have said, I'd gladly pay.

A concerned WW2'er

An up-dated version of Sp2?

****** YES...YES...YES...YES ******

As far as the time period and equipment goes, you guys have clearly shown that you have the expertise and dedication to do anything you set out to accomplish. If anyone can make a modern, up-dated version of SP, you guys can

You sure know how to make the kind of games I love

By the way, how about getting the rights to SSI's "Great Naval Battle" series? or maybe up-dating Great Naval Battles III (war in the Pacific) and IV (war in the Atlantic)? I have been playing them recently, and they are a great deal of fun. They could use improvements in graphics, etc., but they still play extremely well

Keep up the great work fellas.



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A King Tiger can give you a definite edge...

I would love a SPWAW for the modern period. I suggest the period from mid 1960's to now.
If necessary, perhaps you could start with a game covering just the NATO v. WARSAW PACT from 1960 to hypothethical if USSR had not collapsed. I would definitely purchase this game or a modern version of SPWAW.

I would like a Modern version of SPWAW. But, I agree with others - maybe do the time period 1945 - 1980 (before REALLY hyper-accurate weapons came into effect) & then from 1981 on. Either way, count me in!

You can definitly count me in. If "Donations" would be required for this game I would gladly toss some your way. Great work gentlemen, you put much, much larger wargame companies to shame.

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I vote yes.


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Billy Yank
I don't define "my own" the way you want me to.

You can add my voice to that throng...

PLEASE make it!!!! You absolutely have my vote... Need donations? You'll get it from me for sure!

Modern SP - That's a much bigger job than the Nam concept and I would expect that you guys would have to sell this to make it worth the time spent. If that was the case I would not buy this game. Part of the reason is that I'm more interested in WW2 era combat than in modern wars. Many modern battles seem to be routs with the side with better tech winning. Also the SP engine was not designed for this kind of warfare - SP2 was a big stretch IMO. Not meaning to be negative for those that love this idea, but trying to be realistic.

Count me in for Modern SP2, but I think you should really ask your design team. How long can Matrix keep giving us something for free? I wouldn't want to be the one that goes to the well to often, if you know want I mean.

I LOVE the 'modern' idea, but think it's just too big a chunk to take in one bite. I'd suggest breaking it up into two sections: 1950-1970 (or so), and from 1970 to the present. Figure about the time of the Apache/Abrams MBT IOC as the beginning of the "modern" era - when ALL the weapons and tactics got changed.

Lemme think, do I wanna modern SP's? YES! Like it was posted above, I wouldn't want the production of SP WAW to suffer any.
Trust me I would pay for a modern one. If it can be done, you guys would be who I want on the job! Good Luck,


Nate

I love the idea!
One suggestion though. Rather stick with the NATO/Soviet block scenarios, which frankly have been done to death, but as we know didn't actually happen, how about shifting the emphasis to the actual conflicts that happened. Seeing as most of these conflicts involved 2nd and 3rd world countries it would also go much of the way to solving the problem that many have identified of all the high tech kit that comes in with the later time periods. Yes, you'd still need US/UK Soviet/Russian forces for the likes of Korea, Nam, Afganistan and the Falklands.
There's also the 'terrorist' element! PLO, IRA. Again all reletivly low tech.

By shifting the emphasis away from the big hypothetical 'what if' battles, to the smaller 'bushfire' conflicts, many of the problems of such a big time period would be negated, and in my oppinion a very refreshing change!

Originally posted by Recon:
Up to 2005 from 1950? That's a looong period and also would include weapons still in development when it's hard enough to get the WW2 gear correct and complete.
Better break it up into SP'NAM and another, later period SP title. I really think you would be biting off more than can be conveniently chewed.

Recon's got a very good point: 55 years and countless different kinds of warfare is way too much variety to model accurately. Break it up into decades/wars -- then you have a chance to do it right.

Just take the Israeli wars as an example -- the early ones bear no resemblance to the later ones, and we're talking the same countries on both sides. It would be hard to do a Middle East game accurately that covered those 55 years (if not impossible), let alone try and take into consideration a host of other countries.

The Soviet Union/Russia is another example of how difficult it would be to model 55 years within a single country.

All that said: I'd rather have a WWI variant, and an African Wars variant, and a South/Central American Wars variant . . . etc. build a template for niche variants, and then give us the editors to fill in the specifics.

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I would be interested in a modern SP. All this talk about how it would be done. Well I'm sure if Matrix says they can do it then they can.

Just add me to the list of people who say yes to SP Modern. I'd love to see what you guys can do with the IDF.

SPWAW: Modern Brushfire Wars! Love it! Where can I pre-purchase a copy?

troopie