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ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work

I bought new XP to replace 98 last Xmas - I got a $30 upgrade to Vista with it, which I bought.  the Vista remains uninstalled - XP is operating fine - why would I want to go through the hoops ofhaving to learn another sytem, update drivers, etc????[&:]

For now, that is why I chimed in that Vista is a "Failure"

BUT

Why would you want to go through the hoops? Because sooner or later you will probably have no choice. As a gamer, the biggest problem I have, is that most every game I have (and that is more then a few) has to be patched to work with Vista. What a boring and terrible waste of time! But choice will probably not come into the equation.

I never 'upgraded' simply as I can't see any advantage in doing so. Vista has no new features I would actually use, as far as I am aware doesn't run any quicker or more efficiently, and there's a lot of software I still run that either doesn't like Vista or I'm unaware whether it does or not. I'll be buying a new laptop shortly which will no doubt come with it, and allow me to test what runs and what doesn't. Assuming I don't plump for the Mac, that is.

ORIGINAL: Yogi the Great

ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work

I bought new XP to replace 98 last Xmas - I got a $30 upgrade to Vista with it, which I bought.  the Vista remains uninstalled - XP is operating fine - why would I want to go through the hoops ofhaving to learn another sytem, update drivers, etc????[&:]

For now, that is why I chimed in that Vista is a "Failure"

BUT

Why would you want to go through the hoops? Because sooner or later you will probably have no choice.

i'm willing to wait for that set of circumstances....it's why I stayed with 98 for so long. I still have an uninstalled copy of OS/2 too.......

I don't quite see the appeal of a Mac at this point.  I'm spending 30-50% more for a cool looking PC that runs maybe 20% of the applications that are available, and maybe 5% of the games.  Yeah, Apple has come up with some really nice features, and it's clear that they have influenced interface design for the better, but what have they done for me lately?  Leopard?  Who cares?  Again, why buy a PC for the OS?  Is it more stable?  Maybe, but if Apple can't make it stable, they are some seriously crappy programmers, given that they control all of the hardware and drivers involved.

It's my considered opinion that in 5 years Apple will be on their way out of the OS business if not the PC business entirely.  They are an electronic device company now, and a damn good one to boot (hence the name change from Apple Computer).  Given the margins in the Hardware and software business (all of the $ is in services and consulting these days--never an Apple strongpoint), they are much better off.

As far as Vista, bugs an adoption rates go...well any IT shop that's not run by a damn fool, or someone with their nose up the vendor's butt is gonig to wait for AT LEAST one service pack/patch level before deploying a new OS or major software package.  It has little to do with Vista's lack of compatibily with existing software, and everything to do with risk management....i.e. let someone else take the downtime finding the bugs.

FWIW, I run Vista Ultimate on my machine at home, and at work, and while it's not perfect (USB device issues), it's pretty nice, and it's a little bit faster than XP on the same hardware.  Of course it eats more memory, and that's where the speed is likely coming from.  Oh, and Java is SMOKIN' fast on Vista.


Just my .02

ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work

ORIGINAL: Yogi the Great

ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work

I bought new XP to replace 98 last Xmas - I got a $30 upgrade to Vista with it, which I bought.  the Vista remains uninstalled - XP is operating fine - why would I want to go through the hoops ofhaving to learn another sytem, update drivers, etc????[&:]

For now, that is why I chimed in that Vista is a "Failure"

BUT

Why would you want to go through the hoops? Because sooner or later you will probably have no choice.

i'm willing to wait for that set of circumstances....it's why I stayed with 98 for so long. I still have an uninstalled copy of OS/2 too.......

Yep, I'm waiting too, staying with XP while I can. Of course that new computer bug is starting to act up and when it finally hits me, I will probably have to try Vista like it or not.

Could it be Vista's slow start mirror's the Windows Millinium situation not so long ago? XP didn't have that bad of a start. Millinium never recovered and people just stuck it out with W98 until XP came along. As a past millinium owner I see a deja-vu here.

In the long term Vista will thrive.

It is what will be.

Millenium was just a patched up 9x. Vista is actually very different from XP. Party MS hasn't really marketed to the home user what the benefits might be. When was the last time you saw a Vista commercial?

Vista has a steeper learning curve than it probably should have. You can't blame an office or home user for disliking it for that reason but any tech or techy person who dislikes Vista isn't a good tech, they are just lazy.

As others have said Vista's eventual success is inevitable so anyone that needs to work with PCs in any technical capacity whatsoever should have long since been trying to use it themselves. No other way to learn.