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I don't really want history, rather a good playable scenario. So I suggest the hypothetical scenario outlined above, with 20km/week-half week, divisional scale.

ORIGINAL: rhinobones


Believe that it was Churchill that proposed attacking Germany through Greece and the Balkans.

No. Churchill proposed a number of things- of which the nearest to this would be a serious attempt to attack Germany via the Brenner Pass, using forces which were instead used for Operation Dragoon.

ORIGINAL: Trick37

How about a scenario where NATO and other nations invade China after the Chinese failed in their invasion of Taiwan, and/or after the Chinese crashed the stock markets all over the world by financial means (or something along those lines)?

...i've gotta admit, this scen has been running round in my mind since i saw yr post..

..we do have a real point of conflict down here however, which is the oil in the China Sea, oil that is on everyone's boundary, China, Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines..

ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..i'll do the map, but not for Russia 1941, good Europe maps already exist, and i'm still involved with equatorial rain-forest, so new scenery please, an Antartic-riches war between China, the US/ Europe and South America ? i've got some beauty (real) maps of the Antartic, and it'l get me thinking circular again..

You're just breaking it to us gently. Tell us about the Wooly Mammoth cavalry and the start date of 27,000 b.c. you've got in mind.

Karri,
 
If you'll take the leap from 20km to 25km hexes (and the 1/2-week turns is excellent), then I'll join in the Community Project. 
 
I like the idea of hypothetical West-vs-East in 1944-45 with a fragmented Germany (civil war post Hitler assassination) in the middle.

How about some scenarios covering the British campaigns in India? There are some balanced
ones you can make. Maybe TOAW3 doesn't fit too well for this?

I just find this area of history under represented in wargaming.

ORIGINAL: vahauser

Karri,

If you'll take the leap from 20km to 25km hexes (and the 1/2-week turns is excellent), then I'll join in the Community Project.

I like the idea of hypothetical West-vs-East in 1944-45 with a fragmented Germany (civil war post Hitler assassination) in the middle.

Note that an accurate movement rate for leg infantry with the above combination would be about 4 MP's -- 5 MP's at a stretch. 30 km a day is a fine pace -- one that troops usually take pride in. 3.5 times 30 equals 105 km. 105 km/25 km per hex equals four hexes.

Ok. How about Canada vs USA .

ORIGINAL: marcusm

Ok. How about Canada vs USA .

'The Enemy to the North.' Of course, how to simulate attrition due to Polar Bears?

...Case Otto..1938 ??
 
..but this time the Austrians fight..
 
..Germany has regular army and some militia types (SS/SA) and the Austrians have a regular army and militia type (Social Democrats, Workers Militia) then there's Allied intervention possibilities, France,  Britain, Czechoslovakia, Roumania, all on the Austrian side, Italy on someone's side, and a nervous Germany who needs a quick and cheap win..
 
..plus it's a nice map with some wonderful views..
 
..guerilla units for both sides, civilians to massacre

ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

...Case Otto..1938 ??

..but this time the Austrians fight..

..Germany has regular army and some militia types (SS/SA) and the Austrians have a regular army and militia type (Social Democrats, Workers Militia) then there's Allied intervention possibilities, France, Britain, Czechoslovakia, Roumania, all on the Austrian side, Italy on someone's side, and a nervous Germany who needs a quick and cheap win..

..plus it's a nice map with some wonderful views..

..guerilla units for both sides, civilians to massacre

I don't think Hitler would have pressed the issue if this outcome had been likely. The whole rationale for unification kind of falls apart if the Austrians are resisting.

ORIGINAL: Trick37

How about a scenario where NATO and other nations invade China after the Chinese failed in their invasion of Taiwan, and/or after the Chinese crashed the stock markets all over the world by financial means (or something along those lines)?

Then you might need some new equipments for China, I made some in the past months, but the datas may not be accurate...
For me, I would like to see a scenario of Soviet Union invading China in 1985.
One year before I was planning a huge add-on for TOAW3, "rising of red empire", it would consist every major war the Soviet Union fought in its like(Civil War, vs Poland, vs Finland, WW2 not included, Cold War, etc.), well I am now struggling to get some information about Russian Civil War(all I can find in the library is some history and a big map, not that useful, only the Cavalry gave me some impression).

Karri,
 
Oh well.  Doesn't look like a TOAW Community Project is going to happen anytime soon.  But I think that this was an interesting thread nonetheless.

ORIGINAL: Levelworm

well I am now struggling to get some information about Russian Civil War(all I can find in the library is some history and a big map, not that useful, only the Cavalry gave me some impression).

I believe Specterx was looking into a project along these lines- not sure how far he got. You might also like to contact Jarek Flis. He may have come across some sources during research for his Polish-Soviet war scenarios which might be useful to you.

ORIGINAL: ColinWright

ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

...Case Otto..1938 ??

..but this time the Austrians fight..

..Germany has regular army and some militia types (SS/SA) and the Austrians have a regular army and militia type (Social Democrats, Workers Militia) then there's Allied intervention possibilities, France, Britain, Czechoslovakia, Roumania, all on the Austrian side, Italy on someone's side, and a nervous Germany who needs a quick and cheap win..

..plus it's a nice map with some wonderful views..

..guerilla units for both sides, civilians to massacre

I don't think Hitler would have pressed the issue if this outcome had been likely. The whole rationale for unification kind of falls apart if the Austrians are resisting.

..oh i think he would have done. from what i'm now reading it was a bare-faced rape with the only defence being that Austria was wearing a short-skirt. Hitler was brain-twisted mad even then..

ORIGINAL: a white rabbit

..oh i think he would have done. from what i'm now reading it was a bare-faced rape with the only defence being that Austria was wearing a short-skirt. Hitler was brain-twisted mad even then..

His mind may have moved in ways which seem incomprehensible to you and me, but he was also a very, very good gambler. The odds on Austria were right at the time; this was no carefully timetabled operation, it was opportunism.

If Hitler was mad in the way you imply, he would have invaded Austria in 1934 when he was first making moves in this direction. This would have led to war with Italy and probably the end of Hitler's power.

Hitler wasn't mad by the time of the Anschluss. Not yet.