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RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:42 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Thin Red Line is bloody awful. And so is Saving Private Ryan, BTW.
Oh, and don't be snide and patronizing. Judging by your knee jerk cut and paste from IMDB, you don't have the gravitas...[8|]
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:45 pm
by marcusm
It is your personal opinion.
Don't make comments like it was some kind of undisputable fact when it clearly isn't.
IMDB shows that you are DE FACTO wrong in your statement (and the others who claimed it was "worst movie ever").
Btw. The movie is based on actual events as experienced by the protagonist, how can a it be more realistic?
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:58 pm
by Canoerebel
Thin Red Line stunk. The folks out there who liked it are probably the same ones that enjoyed Dancing with Wolves and Cold Mountain. Drivel.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:40 pm
by marcusm
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Thin Red Line stunk. The folks out there who liked it are probably the same ones that enjoyed Dancing with Wolves and Cold Mountain. Drivel.
Or. It appealed to people who want some depht in their movies, ie those who doesn't regard Jean Claude Van Damne the high point of acting.
Like people with actual knowledge about movies, such as the Oscars Jury consisting of
actual movie directors and such strange people. Dances with Wolves(the actual title) won 7 Oscars AND has an average rating of 7.9 (40k votes). That means both the experts AND the audience likes it.
Doesn't mean I always agree with the experts, I actually liked The Postman. It is my personal opinion though and shouldn't be part of any kind of professional analysis on Movies.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:45 pm
by ezzler
Thin red line ..Somehow I missed all those poetic sections under the complete garbage that was the rest of the movie.
I would rather watch pearl harbour again than sit through another 20 mins of that. A least the nurse was Hot.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:49 pm
by marcusm
ORIGINAL: ezz
Thin red line ..Somehow I missed all those poetic sections under the complete garbage that was the rest of the movie.
I would rather watch pearl harbour again than sit through another 20 mins of that. A least the nurse was Hot.
Well why not watch Pearl Harbor again then? Obviously hot nurses is what qualifies a good movie in your book. I think I prefer a script written for those with 70+ IQ.
This is the sad state of todays youth. What can you do?
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:51 pm
by Ursa MAior
Yep. Thin Red line was a bit too slow at times, but I liked it. And definitelly liked the Postman. Right amount of intelligent patriotism, with a genius villain (ex photocopier salesman BTW IIRC) OK Kevin Costner is not like Sean Connery or Harrison Ford but he has moments. And I liked Tom Petty in it.
Edit
Talking of out of place equipment in movies and Costner well the quad M2 brownings and the oar driven Exxon Valdez were completely out of place in Waterworld.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:56 pm
by marcusm
What I can't understand is why some complain about a modern ship being used(like there are millions of ww2 ships around), yet they complain about lack of action and too much waiting etc. Hey, this is how real war is. It's not like the Van Damne flics, I promise. It's 90% waiting and 5% hell. Maybe rest is marching
.
Yet it does what many other war movies fail to do, it actually tells what goes through the mind of one single soldier(it is based on actual events for those "realism experts". Most people do not want to see the accurate depiction of King Tigers, they want a story, a reason to pay for that ticket. Showing correct amount of Ball Bearings in a tank doesn't do it for most people. That is a fact.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:18 pm
by andym
At risk of being ON topic...........The Singing of "Men Of Harlech" in Zulu,it wasnt written untill well after the Battle!
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:22 pm
by Arctic Blast
Was Thin Red Line completely awful? No. however, it was in serious need of an editor and a script cleanup, because it kept meandering all over the damn place a little too often. It came off as a very smug piece of a film, with the director/write basically smirking and telling everyone "Look upon my self proclaimed masterpiece!"
Windtalkers on the other hand...wow. Not even some additions of typical John Woo material (slo-mo and doves) could have salvaged that. [:D]
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:24 pm
by marcusm
But look how many other warmovies are filmed. Endless shooting and running. Unless
you are some sort of ballistic examiner it gets boring fast for normal viewers. The Thin Red Line
adds a dimension to warmovies seldom seen before or after for that matter. Sure it is a tad too long
but anyone who has ever been in the army knows it can be like that. Without the poetry part.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:29 pm
by Arctic Blast
Again, I don't totally disagree with you on this one, marcus. I just found that a little too often, the director seemed to be suffering from a need to prove how 'artistic' he could be, for no reason at all other than showing off. It's the same sort of syndrome that affects a lot of Oliver Stone movies, where he feels the need to add all sorts of bizarre quick cuts and things for no discernible reason at all.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:36 pm
by marcusm
Well I think Platoon had similar aspects. It tried to do something more than just
show endless firefights. Who wants to see that anyway? Stone has made some crap movies
but The Platoon is a masterpiece, no question about it.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:49 pm
by Arctic Blast
I like Platoon and Wall Street. Any Given Sunday had some good PARTS to it, but overall was just a mess. The less said about Alexander, the better, Natural born Killers was just stupid. didn't he do U-Turn, as well? that one could have been much better. The only thing I liked about that one was that NOBODY won.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:57 pm
by marcusm
Any Given Sunday succeeded with one thing at least, it made me appreciate aspects of American Football, something I never thought I would. Maybe it took an over playing Al Pacino to see the light
. It made me see the finer points of the sport. This is what movies should do in my book, make you think, or at least have some kind of reaction.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:08 pm
by anarchyintheuk
Loved Thin Red Line, just thought it had several questionable casting decisions.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:05 am
by JMHawkins
Enemy at the Gates...
I thought it was intentional (and brilliant) that
Enemy at the Gates had the Germans use American accents and the Russians use British accents. A nice twist on the 50's and 60's Hollywood WWII movies with Germans all using British accents.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:40 am
by JudgeDredd
I see we're going back to the usual "stereotyping" that goes with so many threads nowadays...way to go...you know who you are.
marcusm
Ursa Major said "The Spruances in The Thin Red Line"....it was what he was describing in a thread titled "Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies"...if you think about it, what he said fits the category of the thread, so why retorte
Personally I think people who get hung up on stuff like "modern ships" should stick to watching documentaries
And as for this
That explains the brain part(and why some might not like it).
If that is to suggest that those who didn't like don't like films that make you think??? Then [:-] - that's a fairly broad statement, and one which often manifests itself on these boatrds and turns threads into mdu slinging, slagging matches.
I didn't like the Thin Red Line because it bored me. Not because I don't like movies that make you think...it just bored me.
And CanoeRebel...
The folks out there who liked it are probably the same ones that enjoyed Dancing with Wolves and Cold Mountain. Drivel.
Aint necessarily so. I liked Dances with Wolves, but I couldn't watch Thin Red Line more than once.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:42 am
by Ursa MAior
ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd
I see we're going back to the usual "stereotyping" that goes with so many threads nowadays...way to go...you know who you are.
marcusm
Ursa Major said "The Spruances in The Thin Red Line"....it was what he was describing in a thread titled "Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies"...if you think about it, what he said fits the category of the thread, so why retorte
Personally I think people who get hung up on stuff like "modern ships" should stick to watching documentaries
And as for this
That explains the brain part(and why some might not like it).
If that is to suggest that those who didn't like don't like films that make you think??? Then [:-] - that's a fairly broad statement, and one which often manifests itself on these boatrds and turns threads into mdu slinging, slagging matches.
I didn't like the Thin Red Line because it bored me. Not because I don't like movies that make you think...it just bored me.
And CanoeRebel...
The folks out there who liked it are probably the same ones that enjoyed Dancing with Wolves and Cold Mountain. Drivel.
Aint necessarily so. I liked Dances with Wolves, but I couldn't watch Thin Red Line more than once.
If I said Spruances out of place in TRL then I was wrong. I wanted to say they were out of place in Pearl harbor.
RE: Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:50 am
by JudgeDredd
LOL - you didn't say it was out of place in The Thin Red Line...you did say Pearl Harbour - my bad.
But the point of the film was not the issue. I was poiting out that just because you spot a film has Spruances in it and they were not from that era, it doesn't mean you didn't enjoy the film, neither should one think that just because you did notice such a thing, it doesn't mean you should go and watch documentaries and give up on films. Further, that such a post is not uncommon in a thread titled "Goofy Out of Place Things in Movies"
My bad for saying you said The Thin Red Line, though.