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RE: RHS Courtesy update (content and planning)
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:48 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: el cid again
ORIGINAL: Historiker
For the next update, you might think about 3 Dutch BC/BBs for EOS and EEO. Their turrets were already ordered in Germany and they were intended for DEI.
30.890-33.200 t
4500 nm at 20kn
235-238,4m length
29-30m width
2950 tons of Oil on board
225mm belt armour
100mm deck
250mm turrets
34kn max
3 28cm tripple-turrets
4-6 15cm double
I love those ships - and have hand made scale models of them (and most of the ships that never were) - for mineatures games.
But I don't see how they can be in WITP - they could not be built in WWII as we know it - it would have to be a later WWII I guess.
That might be worth a scenario - but WITP seems about to be replaced - and the work required would tax even me - and require AE I suppose.
I've done one of them for my personal mod. Obviously, it requires a bit of fiddling with history...[:D]
RE: RHS Courtesy update (content and planning)
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:59 pm
by el cid again
I must go to work -
but there were two wonderful gigantic CLs suspended by the war - one still exists in Chile -
and if started sooner - these might appear in BEEO - I forgot them - de zeven proviencien class -
their form in the 1930s was different then their form as completed after the war
there are some French possibilities along these lines as well
and maybe RTN gets its two tiny CLs - if only they started sooner - they ended up AA cruisers for Italy -
and still didn't get finished if I remember right - one of their Thai names was Taksin
Sid
RE: RHS Courtesy update (content and planning)
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:03 pm
by el cid again
It depends on when our hypothetical world departs from the real one?
Then figure a year or two to notice the Japanese are up to more than usual -
I think this must occur sometime in the 1920s - the Washington Treaty applies -
then we get a base - and when it ends - or Japan announces it won't honor it -
an event that would get noticed - things can start planning or building.
This likely gets you the battlecruisers.
The limit is more more money than time - the Dutch naval advocates wanted lots of stuff -
but they rarely got it. Dutch ship design is notable for how many corners they cut - and how
little they ended up doing compared with the original porposal.
RE: RHS Courtesy update (content and planning)
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:18 pm
by DuckofTindalos
My takes on the two Dutch classes in question:

RE: RHS Courtesy update (content and planning)
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:18 pm
by DuckofTindalos
And...

RE: RHS Courtesy update (content and planning)
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:34 am
by el cid again
NICELY DONE - THE GUNS ARE CERTAINLY RIGHT - AND YOU HAVE ART TOO