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RE: SMS Kormoran found...
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:14 pm
by John Lansford
Nah, Monitor's off my current state and the only significant piece they're trying to raise is the turret. The rest of the hull is so decomposed there's little left to raise, and even the turret is seriously rusted in places. They brought up the anchor, the bell and IIRC the guns some time ago, but the hull is in really bad shape.
RE: SMS Kormoran found...
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:24 pm
by bradfordkay
I knew that they had raised the turret and the engine, but did not realize that they had declined to raise the rest. At least they are doing the right thing and are restoring it at the Mariner's Museum in Virginia and not leaving it to the Tarheel State... [:'(]
RE: SMS Kormoran found...
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:23 pm
by John 3rd
I would note that CNN is carrying a scroll along the bottom of their screen saying that the 'battlecruiser HMAS Sydney' has been found...
What are the thoughts regarding salvage of a wreck? I had real issue with the people who brought up pieces of Titanic. To me these sites are nothing but large cemetaries...I think of the sea of boots above Bismarck's wreck.
Monitor is a tough call. It is the same sort of thing to me...
RE: SMS Kormoran found...
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:57 pm
by anarchyintheuk
Personal feelings: Salvage away. They can't get any deader.
RE: SMS Kormoran found...
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:08 pm
by John 3rd
Would people say that of Arizona?
RE: SMS Kormoran found...
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:37 pm
by bbbf
They are 3000+ metres down, and should be in reasonably good condition (for battle wrecks) because of that.
As they are 3000+ meters down, I don't think anybody could raise either of them anyway -except for the super secret Howard Hughes/CIA Soviet sub raising/undersea mining ship - and I don't know if she exists anymore either.
As to whether they should salvage anything - I think one significant piece from each should be brought up and that is it.
They will be classified as wargraves now anyway and as such, proteced under law.
RE: SMS Kormoran found...
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:50 am
by John 3rd
Well said Sir. I believe that Dr. Ballard was instrumental in getting that legislation enacted. He is quite passionate on the subject.
RE: SMS Kormoran found...
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:29 am
by Kull
Indeed it is! Fifty hits from 150mm guns at a range of 1000 meters? What a nightmare that must have been.
RE: SMS Kormoran found...
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:20 pm
by anarchyintheuk
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RE: SMS Kormoran found...
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:44 pm
by anarchyintheuk
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Would people say that of Arizona?
I can't speak for other people. I would have no problem with it.