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I have sent my bids to DC Whitworth for holding. All interested parties can now send their bids -- not using the GAP file -- to me.

Max bid percountry is 30. No identical bids.

Please ensure you can do a 24 hour turnaround for moves, or 48 hours --coordinated ahead of time -- in extremis.
My e-mail is varick_ready @ yahoo.com.

I will wait 48 hours for submissions and then, if not all bids are received, open the bids up to other parties.

If you need more time for this or any moves, please be sure to schedule ahead of time.
If anyone objects to the above proposed house rules, then please bring up your objection.

Borner: Noted on the Naval move. That said, I would reckon that your Brit was not too experienced. Let's have a vote on it and i will go with the majority, as this is not a show stopper for me.

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Mardonius/Varick

it's nots a deal-breaer for me either. Although when I started teh post I did state a 48 hr turnaround goal, and not sure how many of the others signed up with that in mind.

Yes, you did write that. I think we can afford a 48 hour turnaround in some cases. I was trying to encourage a 24 turnaround unless someone needed more time.

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Mardonius/Varick

Just to confirm I have Varick's bids. I'd also like to volunteer myself as a reserve should anyone drop out.

I have bids in from Varick (me), Ryan, Lew, Brian, Doug, Jason and Bob. That is all bids.

If you have not sent your bid to me, please do so in the next 24 hours. After that, I will open the game up to others. 1st Alternate is DC Whitworth.

Several have noted that they are on 1.02G, which is the right patch to be on. We will stay on this patch until, at least, another patch has been issued and vetted by no less than two weeks of active play.

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Mardonius (Varick)

Here are the bids, in case anyone is interested:

NAPOLEON'S OPTIONS

Country France Britain Russia Austria Prussia Spain Turkey Awarded Country Cost
Player
Varick 26 19 11 7 2 4 1 Prussia 2
Ryan 21 15 20 18 2 1 6 Austria 18
Lew 30 19 18 5 7 9 1 France 30
Brian 15 16 27 8 4 2 1 Russia 27
Bob 1 2 13 10 8 11 7 Spain 11
Doug 23 24 21 5 1 8 3 Britain 24
Jason 15 5 9 3 1 4 2 Turkey 2

I'll post our house rules as soon as they are nailed down, as they contian some good ideas on maintaining the historical flavor of the era and limiting gamesmanship.


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Mardonius/Varick

House Rules that we have adopted, in case anyone is interested.

HOUSE RULES

Suggested Options :
Winter Land Movement Yes
Guard Commit Yes
Allow PBEM Host Yes
Allow Option Changes during the game Yes
Third Party battle resolution No
PBEM passwords No
Econ Manip Yes
GB/FR War Yes
Leader Cas No
Privateers Yes
PBEM Quick No
Strait control Yes
Lille crossing arrow Yes


1)For initial war UK and FR can only have unconditional surrender; FRANCE must take 2 fleets, Nelson; England must take Napoleon

2)Dardanelles Restriction: Unless Constantinople is besieged, you can
not sail into or through the Sea of Marmara (the Straits) or blockade
Constantinople. Owner of Constantinople excepted, of course.

3) Any controlling country cannot use fleet/corps against any country NOT declaring on minor (or at war with minor) until war is lapsed or minor conquered.

3a) You can not attack a minor that you did not declare war on. Example 1: France and UK are at war. Spain Dows on Portugal. France gets control of Portugal. Britain can not attack Portuguese forces unless War between Spain and Portugal lapses and France gains full control. Example Two: Britain and Russia are at war with France. Britain DOWs against Denmark. France gains control. Russia can not attack Denmark unless war between Denmark and UK lapses and France gains full control of Denmark. Similarly, you can not use DoW acquired minors to take action other than defending against their aggressor until the initial war has lapsed. NOTE: I added this part for clarification --Varick


4) Cannot declare with intention of lapsing to give to another.

5) Cannot scuttle controlled nation fleets if 0% chance of winning. You must use the fleet with self-preservation in mind.

5a) Naval engagement involving minors fleets must, where possible, involve and equal number of controlling major nation ships. This house rule comes from attempts to "run the guns of a port". For example, Spain and the UK are at war. Spain DoWs on Portugal and Britain gains control. Britain may not attack Spanish ports unless an equal number or greater British ships accompany the attacking Portuguese and losses are proportional.


6) Loaning corps: may only loan corps entering battle if both loaner and loanee are at war with ALL of opponents; otherwise, maximum of 10 factors or two Turkish Corps. No restriction on loaning allied corps for moves only; Point A to Point B, no battle involved.

7) Proportional losses at land and sea. Engagements should take losses from different nations according to proportion committed. Cavalry, guard, artillery, guerrillas, militia, Cossacks, freikorps, and feudals to be exceptions to this rule. Cavalry pursuits should be proportional too except for feudal/cossacks/freikorps.

8) No forwarding other's e-mails. You can write whatever you like someone else said, but the forwarding of e-mails w/out permission is not allowed Reason: Makes to too easy for players to compromise diplomatic correspondence and discourages creativity.

9) The defender in a multi-corps battle must send his defense choice to a trusted ally. Reason: prevents cheating. Yes, this does occur and I have, sadly, seen it happen.


Proposed rule that did not pass
Britain must move first or last in the naval phase and can not move in the middle onf the naval phase. Maybe moot after naval forces can be loaned, but until then there is no other way for a collation to form a fleet to engage a British naval hegemon.