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I vote Dairy for the Netherlands, as Livestock suggests cattle reared for slaughter ... and Cattle or Beef for Calgary.

ORIGINAL: marcuswatney

I vote Dairy for the Netherlands, as Livestock suggests cattle reared for slaughter ... and Cattle or Beef for Calgary.

Dairy ? For a WiF RP that can be used to build war machines ? I'd rather simply leave it as "Food". I plan on putting "Cattle" for Calgary though.

ORIGINAL: Froonp

Dairy ? For a WiF RP that can be used to build war machines ? I'd rather simply leave it as "Food". I plan on putting "Cattle" for Calgary though.

Biological warfare - ever smelled milk gone really really bad? [:D]

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

The black text on the mountain terrain is a little hard to read, but legible - and none of this affects game play, so it doesn't have to jump off the screen at you.

I think the text is perfect. I think the black text fits nicely together with the black background on the resource symbel.

That the text doesn't jump off the screen as you say is a big bonus as only important information should scream out its presence.

The oil resources would benefit with a border around it. Like the resources have. Maybe in black?

ORIGINAL: Orm
The oil resources would benefit with a border around it. Like the resources have. Maybe in black?

Funny that you make that remark, I just made it yesterday (or the day before) on the private MWiF playtest Forum. [:D]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

The black text on the mountain terrain is a little hard to read, but legible - and none of this affects game play, so it doesn't have to jump off the screen at you.

I think the text is perfect. I think the black text fits nicely together with the black background on the resource symbel.

That the text doesn't jump off the screen as you say is a big bonus as only important information should scream out its presence.

The oil resources would benefit with a border around it. Like the resources have. Maybe in black?

[:D][:D][:D] That's a bug! And no one had complained about it until yesterday (Patrice). In fact, the regular resources have a much better border than what was being shown. The code just wasn't showing the borders that Rob Armstrong (graphics) had provided for these icons. Mea culpa.[8|]

2nd and last in series. Here's another revised screenshot (this bug took 2 minutes to correct).

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
[:D][:D][:D] That's a bug! And no one had complained about it until yesterday (Patrice). In fact, the regular resources have a much better border than what was being shown. The code just wasn't showing the borders that Rob Armstrong (graphics) had provided for these icons. Mea culpa.[8|]

How could we miss this one for months ! [X(]

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
[:D][:D][:D] That's a bug! And no one had complained about it until yesterday (Patrice). In fact, the regular resources have a much better border than what was being shown. The code just wasn't showing the borders that Rob Armstrong (graphics) had provided for these icons. Mea culpa.[8|]

How could we miss this one for months ! [X(]

We didn't - it was years!

Naming the resources looks really great. I wonder what kind of resource type you decided to place for the Norwegian resource. The resource here is the Knaben Molybdenum mines so the resource type should be Molybdenum.

The Finnish Petsamo mine should have the resource type of Nickel. The Swedish resources will be iron, of course.

Germany was heavily dependent upon wolfram (tungsten) and Portugal had a very important wolfram mine. China have the biggest wolfram mines in the world.

Do you have any uranium, platinum, gold, silver, copper, aluminium, titanium or diamond mines on the map?

ORIGINAL: Borger Borgersen

Naming the resources looks really great. I wonder what kind of resource type you decided to place for the Norwegian resource. The resource here is the Knaben Molybdenum mines so the resource type should be Molybdenum.

The Finnish Petsamo mine should have the resource type of Nickel. The Swedish resources will be iron, of course.

Germany was heavily dependent upon wolfram (tungsten) and Portugal had a very important wolfram mine. China have the biggest wolfram mines in the world.

Do you have any uranium, platinum, gold, silver, copper, aluminium, titanium or diamond mines on the map?

Patrice probably has a better list than this, with the locations named. But here are all the labels he added to the data file. And yes, there are 3634 labels on the map.
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3502,11,100,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Iron
3503,17,66,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Tungsten
3504,18,62,10,46,0,0,0,21,0,4,Tungsten
3505,19,69,35,60,0,0,0,17,0,4,Mercury
3506,21,71,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Zinc
3507,21,80,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Coal
3508,22,63,35,60,0,0,0,17,0,4,Iron
3509,25,48,27,26,0,0,0,24,0,4,Coal
3510,26,56,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Iron
3511,27,47,35,31,0,0,0,13,0,4,Iron
3512,28,54,35,60,0,0,0,17,0,4,Iron
3513,30,53,35,60,0,0,0,17,0,4,Coal
3514,31,62,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Bauxite
3515,32,53,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Phosphates
3516,32,55,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Iron
3517,33,49,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Food
3518,33,51,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3519,33,55,4,58,0,0,0,8,0,4,Coal
3520,33,62,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Zinc
3521,34,54,27,26,0,0,0,24,0,4,Coal
3522,34,70,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Coal
3523,35,40,35,31,0,0,0,13,0,4,Molybdenum
3524,35,50,10,36,0,0,0,22,0,4,Coal
3525,36,49,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Potash
3526,36,50,27,71,0,0,0,6,0,4,Iron
3527,37,64,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Mercury
3528,38,53,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Iron
3529,39,54,27,26,0,0,0,24,0,4,Iron
3530,39,61,35,31,0,0,0,13,0,4,Bauxite
3531,40,50,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Coal
3532,43,53,18,60,0,0,0,19,0,4,Coal
3533,44,54,35,60,0,0,0,17,0,4,Coal
3534,44,59,10,36,0,0,0,22,0,4,Bauxite
3535,45,24,43,36,0,0,0,14,0,4,Iron
3536,45,25,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Iron
3537,45,52,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Iron
3538,47,63,27,65,0,0,0,18,0,4,Copper
3539,47,65,27,46,0,0,0,18,0,4,Chromium
3540,48,71,35,31,0,0,0,13,0,4,Bauxite
3541,51,66,43,36,0,0,0,14,0,4,Lead
3542,52,21,18,65,0,0,0,7,0,4,Nickel
3543,52,127,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Diamonds
3544,53,152,27,46,0,0,0,25,0,4,Diamonds
3545,55,72,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Chromium
3546,55,149,35,65,0,0,0,5,0,4,Gold
3547,56,133,43,46,0,0,0,3,0,4,Copper
3548,57,55,27,65,0,0,0,18,0,4,Iron
3549,60,75,35,65,0,0,0,5,0,4,Chromium
3550,61,50,49,58,0,0,0,4,0,4,Iron
3551,61,59,4,33,0,0,0,10,0,4,Iron
3552,62,43,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Phosphates
3553,64,51,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Iron
3554,64,71,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Chromium
3555,72,63,35,31,0,0,0,13,0,4,Manganese
3556,87,42,27,65,0,0,0,18,0,4,Phosphates
3557,87,45,4,33,0,0,0,10,0,4,Iron
3558,88,39,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Copper
3559,97,70,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3560,99,67,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Sulphur
3561,101,53,35,26,0,0,0,1,0,4,Coal
3562,106,90,35,31,0,0,0,13,0,4,Manganese
3563,108,98,27,46,0,0,0,25,0,4,Coal
3564,110,95,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Iron
3565,112,49,43,55,0,0,0,16,0,4,Iron
3566,113,90,27,46,0,0,0,25,0,4,Iron
3567,115,46,35,26,0,0,0,1,0,4,Coal
3568,129,113,35,60,0,0,0,17,0,4,Tin
3569,130,72,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Iron
3570,130,115,43,55,0,0,0,16,0,4,Rubber
3571,131,81,27,20,0,0,0,12,0,4,Coal
3572,133,83,4,46,0,0,0,9,0,4,Coal
3573,134,94,10,55,0,0,0,20,0,4,Coal
3574,137,76,43,55,0,0,0,16,0,4,Coal
3575,138,90,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Tin
3576,139,96,4,33,0,0,0,10,0,4,Bauxite
3577,141,68,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Iron
3578,142,86,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Antimony
3579,143,73,10,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3580,145,52,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Tin
3581,145,67,27,65,0,0,0,18,0,4,Iron
3582,148,77,10,55,0,0,0,20,0,4,Phosphates
3583,148,89,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Iron
3584,151,68,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Iron
3585,151,101,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Gold
3586,153,57,49,33,0,0,0,2,0,4,Gold
3587,154,71,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Iron
3588,160,53,35,31,0,0,0,13,0,4,Coal
3589,161,63,43,55,0,0,0,16,0,4,Iron
3590,162,59,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Lead
3591,168,140,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Lead
3592,171,62,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3593,172,156,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Silver
3594,180,157,18,31,0,0,0,23,0,4,Coal
3595,194,142,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Nickel
3596,268,73,10,55,0,0,0,20,0,4,Mercury
3597,271,68,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Magnesium
3598,274,54,27,46,0,0,0,25,0,4,Lead
3599,276,51,27,26,0,0,0,24,0,4,Mixed
3600,278,66,27,46,0,0,0,25,0,4,Lead
3601,278,75,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Copper
3602,284,68,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Molybdenum
3603,286,60,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Gold
3604,288,86,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3605,293,69,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3606,296,55,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Iron
3607,296,64,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3608,296,74,18,26,0,0,0,11,0,4,Bauxite
3609,298,52,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Timber
3610,299,56,27,65,0,0,0,18,0,4,Iron
3611,299,65,35,60,0,0,0,17,0,4,Coal
3612,299,71,10,46,0,0,0,21,0,4,Lead
3613,302,67,43,36,0,0,0,14,0,4,Coal
3614,303,70,43,36,0,0,0,14,0,4,Coal
3615,303,75,43,36,0,0,0,14,0,4,Iron
3616,305,68,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3617,306,72,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3618,307,55,18,65,0,0,0,7,0,4,Nickel
3619,307,71,27,46,0,0,0,25,0,4,Zinc
3620,309,65,49,33,0,0,0,2,0,4,Coal
3621,309,68,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3622,310,54,27,46,0,0,0,25,0,4,Copper
3623,310,65,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3624,313,64,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Coal
3625,313,92,27,65,0,0,0,18,0,4,Manganese
3626,317,57,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Asbestos
3627,318,134,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Antimony
3628,318,158,43,46,0,0,0,15,0,4,Copper
3629,319,150,10,36,0,0,0,22,0,4,Copper
3630,320,144,18,31,0,0,0,23,0,4,Copper
3631,321,141,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Tin
3632,331,110,27,46,0,0,0,6,0,4,Bauxite
3633,334,110,49,58,0,0,0,4,0,4,Bauxite
3634,341,141,27,46,0,0,0,0,0,4,Bauxite

Borger, weren't you around when this was discussed here ad nauseaum ?
Here is the list we agreed upon, and that we used :

Location / Country / Number of RP / Nature / Coordinates
Béchar Algeria 1 Coal 80 21
Broken Hill Australia 1 Silver 156 172
Mount Isa Australia 1 Lead 140 168
Newcastle Australia 1 Coal 157 180
Clear 127,52 Belgian Congo 1 Diamonds 127 52
Clear 53,32 Belgium 1 Phosphates 53 32
Mountain 141,321 Bolivia 1 Tin 141 321
Clear 141,341 Brazil 1 Bauxite 141 341
Clear 110,331 British Guyana 1 Bauxite 110 331
Mountain 66,51 Bulgaria 1 Lead 66 51
Forest 52,298 Canada 1 Timber 52 298
Mountain 51,276 Canada 1 Cattle 51 276
Rouyn Canada 1 Copper 54 310
Sudbury Canada 1 Nickel 55 307
Thetford Mines Canada 1 Asbestos 57 317
Chuquicamata Chile 1 Copper 144 320
Mountain 150,319 Chile 1 Copper 150 319
Mountain 158,318 Chile 1 Copper 158 318
Chengtu China 1 Coal 81 131
Chungking China 2 Coal 83 133
Clear 73,143 China 1 Coal 73 143
Clear 86,142 China 1 Antimony 86 142
Desert Mountain 68,141 China 1 Iron 68 141
Forest 90,138 China 1 Tin 90 138
Haichow China 1 Phosphates 77 148
Mountain 72,130 China 1 Iron 72 130
Sian China 1 Coal 76 137
San Luis Cuba 1 Manganese 92 313
Mountain 75,60 Cyprus 1 Chromium 75 60
Forest 54,39 Czechoslovakia 1 Iron 54 39
Paramaribo Dutch Guyana 1 Bauxite 110 334
Petsamo Finland 1 Nickel 21 52
Clear 89,148 Formosa 1 Iron 89 148
Clear 53,30 France 1 Coal 53 30
Clear 54,28 France 1 Iron 54 28
Clear 55,32 France 1 Iron 55 32
Clear 56,26 France 1 Iron 56 26
Metz France 1 Coal 55 33
Mountain 62,31 France 1 Bauxite 62 31
Clear 49,36 Germany 1 Potash 49 36
Clear 50,40 Germany 1 Coal 50 40
Clear 51,33 Germany 1 Coal 51 33
Clear 53,38 Germany 1 Iron 53 38
Clear 53,43 Germany 1 Coal 53 43
Essen Germany 1 Coal 50 35
Hanover Germany 1 Iron 50 36
Saarbrücken Germany 1 Coal 54 34
Mountain 71,48 Greece 1 Bauxite 71 48
Forest 96,139 Hainan 1 Bauxite 96 139
Clear 59,44 Hungary 1 Bauxite 59 44
Clear 90,113 India 1 Iron 90 113
Forest 90,106 India 1 Manganese 90 106
Mountain 95,110 India 1 Iron 95 110
Yellandu India 1 Coal 98 108
Hanoi Indo-China 1 Coal 94 134
Forest 64,37 Italy 1 Mercury 64 37
Mountain 62,33 Italy 1 Zinc 62 33
Pola Italy 1 Bauxite 61 39
Mountain 62,171 Japan 1 Coal 62 171
Mountain 71,154 Korea 1 Iron 71 154
Jungle 115,130 Malaya 1 Rubber 115 130
Larut Malaya 1 Tin 113 129
Mountain 67,145 Manchuria 1 Iron 67 145
Mountain 68,151 Manchuria 1 Iron 68 151
Tsitsihar Manchuria 1 Gold 57 153
Clear 86,288 Mexico 1 Coal 86 288
Clear 49,33 Netherlands 1 Food 49 33
Mountain 142,194 New Caledonia 1 Nickel 142 194
Ndola Northern Rhodesia 1 Copper 133 56
Knaben Norway 1 Molybdenum 40 35
Mountain 134,318 Peru 1 Antimony 134 318
Mountain 101,151 Philippines 1 Gold 101 151
Clear 52,45 Poland 1 Iron 52 45
Katowice Poland 1 Coal 54 44
Mountain 66,17 Portugal 1 Tungsten 66 17
Clear 70,34 Sardinia 1 Coal 70 34
Kayes Senegal 1 Iron 100 11
Kimberley South Africa 1 Diamonds 152 53
Pretoria South Africa 1 Gold 149 55
Mountain 62,18 Spain 1 Tungsten 62 18
Mountain 63,22 Spain 1 Iron 63 22
Mountain 69,19 Spain 1 Mercury 69 19
Mountain 71,21 Spain 1 Zinc 71 21
Gällivare Sweden 2 Iron 25 45
Kiruna Sweden 1 Iron 24 45
Mountain 71,64 Turkey 1 Chromium 71 64
Mountain 72,55 Turkey 1 Chromium 72 55
Cardiff United Kingdom 1 Coal 48 25
Coventry United Kingdom 1 Iron 47 27
Birmingham USA 1 Iron 75 303
Clear 55,296 USA 1 Iron 55 296
Clear 64,296 USA 1 Coal 64 296
Clear 64,313 USA 1 Coal 64 313
Clear 68,305 USA 1 Coal 68 305
Clear 69,293 USA 1 Coal 69 293
Clear 71,299 USA 1 Lead 71 299
Forest 60,286 USA 1 Gold 60 286
Forest 71,307 USA 1 Zinc 71 307
Forest 72,306 USA 1 Coal 72 306
Indianapolis USA 1 Coal 67 302
Ironwood USA 1 Iron 56 299
Little Rock USA 1 Bauxite 74 296
Louisville USA 1 Coal 70 303
Mountain 65,310 USA 1 Coal 65 310
Mountain 66,278 USA 1 Lead 66 278
Mountain 68,271 USA 1 Magnesium 68 271
Mountain 68,284 USA 1 Molybdenum 68 284
Mountain 68,309 USA 1 Coal 68 309
Mountain 73,268 USA 1 Mercury 73 268
Peoria USA 1 Coal 65 299
Phoenix USA 1 Copper 75 278
Pittsburgh USA 1 Coal 65 309
Wallace USA 1 Lead 54 274
Biisk USSR 1 Iron 49 112
Clear 43,62 USSR 1 Phosphates 43 62
Clear 51,64 USSR 1 Iron 51 64
Forest 39,88 USSR 1 Copper 39 88
Forest 42,87 USSR 1 Phosphates 42 87
Forest 59,162 USSR 1 Lead 59 162
Forest 63,72 USSR 1 Manganese 63 72
Karaganda USSR 1 Coal 53 101
Kerch USSR 1 Iron 59 61
Kokand USSR 1 Sulphur 67 99
Krasnokamensk USSR 1 Tin 52 145
Krivoy Rog USSR 3 Iron 55 57
Kursk USSR 1 Iron 50 61
Magnitogorsk USSR 1 Iron 45 87
Mountain 53,160 USSR 1 Coal 53 160
Stalinabad USSR 1 Coal 70 97
Stalinsk USSR 1 Coal 46 115
Suchan USSR 1 Iron 63 161
Forest 63,47 Yugoslavia 1 Copper 63 47
Mountain 65,47 Yugoslavia 1 Chromium 65 47

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
The symbols for the factories are taken straight from WIF FE (using Australian Deisgn Group's original graphics). The same is true for the ports. I would prefer to not make any changes from those images.

I agree for Branding reasons they should default to ADG's graphics. Still, I would like to kow if the bitmap icons are hard coded or can we change the bitmaps to our own design?

ORIGINAL: abj9562
I agree for Branding reasons they should default to ADG's graphics. Still, I would like to kow if the bitmap icons are hard coded or can we change the bitmaps to our own design?

You can change them.

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: abj9562
I agree for Branding reasons they should default to ADG's graphics. Still, I would like to kow if the bitmap icons are hard coded or can we change the bitmaps to our own design?

You can change them.

I don't remember exactly how this is done, but the factory icons are drawn both with and without smoke to indicate functioning/non-functioning. That probably just menas extra bitmaps for each condition. I do know that there is a frame (red of blue) and 1 to 3 icons go in each frame (which means there are 6 frame bitmaps). If any of the factories are red, then the frame is red.

I have a vague memory that the position (x and y offests) of the smoke is hard coded.

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

ORIGINAL: Froonp

ORIGINAL: abj9562
I agree for Branding reasons they should default to ADG's graphics. Still, I would like to kow if the bitmap icons are hard coded or can we change the bitmaps to our own design?

You can change them.

I don't remember exactly how this is done, but the factory icons are drawn both with and without smoke to indicate functioning/non-functioning. That probably just menas extra bitmaps for each condition. I do know that there is a frame (red of blue) and 1 to 3 icons go in each frame (which means there are 6 frame bitmaps). If any of the factories are red, then the frame is red.

I have a vague memory that the position (x and y offests) of the smoke is hard coded.

he factories may be complicated to change indeed, but the resources & oil are simple. Just replace the icon bitmap with another.