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RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:43 pm
by Jeffrey H.
...OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??


It's a dead one for sure.


RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:09 pm
by 06 Maestro
It is difficult to be certain, but I would say it is a T64. The one telling feature is the horizontal ridge on the front slope. Niether the T62 (an antique) or a T72 have that.
The 72 was an export model as Feltan mentioned, but an old one. I doubt those were donated to Geogia after the Breakup of the S.U. Perhaps they purchased a few after achieving independance.
The turret and hull is very similar to a T55, but the bore evacuator on the 55 was on the end of the barrel-not the middle.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:22 pm
by 06 Maestro
ORIGINAL: Mynok


Something sure popped-the-top on that front tank. Sabot round or airstrike?


Something sparked the ammo rack. It could have been a SABOT, or 30/40mm from an aircraft going through the roof. From what we can see of the terrain, it could easily have been a light AT weapon. Shaped charges can easily penitrate the side of a T64.

A bomb or large (AC lauched) AT rocket has a tendancy to disasemble the target a bit more...

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:37 pm
by 11Bravo
What kind of cycle is that?

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:08 pm
by Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: 11Bravo

What kind of cycle is that?

I could be wrong but I think that is the Georgian Presidential limousine. They had to get rid of the '57 Zil after the Russkis cut off the pipleine in '06.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:53 am
by Neilster
It's clearly a British Matilda II. You can tell by the 2 pounder it's armed with. It was probably captured in France in 1940 and then used by the Germans in the invasion of the Soviet Union. Captured again, probably at Stalingrad, it would have been used by a Russian crew in the huge Red Army armoured offensives of 1943-45, possibly carrying the nickname "lucky", except in Russian.

From here, its history becomes murky but somehow this tank made its way into Georgian hands following the break-up of the Soviet Union. Given the Matilda's thick armour, its destruction must have been due to a lucky shot. Although I could be wrong...now...where did I put my medication? [:'(]

Cheers, Neilster

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:06 pm
by Jeffrey H.
ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro

...A bomb or large (AC lauched) AT rocket has a tendancy to disasemble the target a bit more...


I realy appreciate the style of the language you use here, very clinical.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:08 pm
by Jeffrey H.
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: 11Bravo

What kind of cycle is that?

I could be wrong but I think that is the Georgian Presidential limousine. They had to get rid of the '57 Zil after the Russkis cut off the pipleine in '06.


It's obviously not of Russian manufacture, the Russians make bicycles out of concrete don't they ?

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:58 pm
by Titanwarrior89
I would say T-62/72 early series. The type of suspension system seems to look like a christe suspension and location of the muzzle brake.
ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2

Hi there, this image is of some destroyed tanks in Georgia.

Am I the only one to recognise a T34 as the second tank in this image ????

Image

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:46 am
by BoredStiff
I think it may just be a Badonkadonk.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:58 am
by Marc von Martial
It's a wheelchair.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:23 pm
by Coolness
I think it could be T-72A as well.

T-62 and T-72 resemble each other pretty much and that tank is so wasted that it is hard to tell which one is it. Both T-72 and T-62 are being used in the conflict on both sides.


RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:47 pm
by Feltan
I can't find any source that states Georgia has T-62's, while many state they have T-72's that were modernized via U.S. foreign aid.

Regards,
Feltan

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:22 pm
by ANZAC_Tack
will the US now supply new tanks to georgia, maybe some at missiles as well? maybe some second hand abrams going cheep? NZAF turned down a few dozen f16's,there still sitting in the bone yard, perfectly servisable...help keep the ruskies at bay next time...

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:36 pm
by Marauders
The turret looks too high a profile for a T-72, but I am used to seeing the T-72 with the ERA. I have seen photos from the combat zone with T-72 armor with the ERA blown right off the turret.

Georgia does use the T-72BV and T-72 SIM1 with explosive reactive armor tiles.

Georgia received a total of 70 T-72 tanks from the Czech Republic in 2005 and 2006. They may have a dozen more from before that.

The former Soviet Republic of Georgia had over 100 T-62's in its armed forces inventory. I don't know what they did with those.

I wonder if the loader system took a hit on the near tank.

Here is a close photo of that tank damage:

Image
It's a wheelchair.



RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:10 pm
by flibby
are you the same terminus from TheTrenches MOD? [&:]

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:21 pm
by OrpBde
T54
JMW

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:24 pm
by gunny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3491X3PE ... re=related

Here's some good all round view U tube film of a T 64.

RE: OT: War in Georgia, what tank is this??

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:04 am
by 06 Maestro
Although there may have been a few T 64s in that video, most of those tanks are T-72's. The snorkeling stowage position, the splash guard, and the location of the spotlight are all good indications those are T-72's. I would say that the title of that clip is a little misleading. The still photo at the start titled T-64A sure looks like a 72 to me. I guess you can't trust U-Tube.
If there are any Warsaw Pact uniform experts around, perhaps they could ID those soldiers lolly- gagging around. Perhaps they are not Russian.