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RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:31 am
by rjopel
It's the Battleship Ise in late July 45 being pounded in one of a several day series of strikes by TF58.

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:41 am
by Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: wdolson

BTW, these pictures are very nice. A few do look a bit odd, but most look like they were originally in color. Whoever is doing the colorization is doing an excellent job.

Bill


You're right, It's tough to get it perfect, but I have seen some bad colorization jobs. Whoever or whatever is doing these it is the best I have seen. REALLY good. I would love to see more period shots with that kind of colorization.

I have seen very few actual color photos taken by a WWII Japanese photographer. Only a handfull of diplomatic photos, no combat photos. It must not have been available in Japan. Unlike the Germans, who took quite a few color photos.

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:44 pm
by Lecivius
I'm not sure if it is related, but Microsoft has released a high end software package that REALLY enhances images.  A couple of dated anaolg pics can get turned into colorized 3D images etc.  I am curious if this might be a by-product.
 
Great pics in any event [&o]

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:36 pm
by wdolson
ORIGINAL: Elouda

Its battleship Ise, on the 24th July 1945, at Ondo Seto (between Kure and Kurahashijima), under attack by aircraft from the USS Ranger.

I kind of doubt it was aircraft from the Ranger. The Ranger was a training carrier by 1945 and hadn't left continental US waters in over a year. It was deemed unsuitable for combat early in the war and was pulled from service as soon as enough CVEs were available to replace it in the Atlantic.

Bill

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:59 pm
by Elouda
ORIGINAL: wdolson
ORIGINAL: Elouda

Its battleship Ise, on the 24th July 1945, at Ondo Seto (between Kure and Kurahashijima), under attack by aircraft from the USS Ranger.

I kind of doubt it was aircraft from the Ranger. The Ranger was a training carrier by 1945 and hadn't left continental US waters in over a year. It was deemed unsuitable for combat early in the war and was pulled from service as soon as enough CVEs were available to replace it in the Atlantic.

Bill


Yeah, seems your right. Erraneous entry for Ise on wikipedia then. Ranger arrived at San Diego 25th July, so unless the USN developed teleportation, it wasnt aircraft from there. Another source just states "TF38", which is probably more accurate.

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:55 pm
by wdolson
Specifically which carrier the planes that struck the Ise were from is lost to history.  I would not be surprised if she was attacked with planes from multiple carriers.

Bill

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:17 am
by Kull
ORIGINAL: rjopel

It's the Battleship Ise in late July 45 being pounded in one of a several day series of strikes by TF58.

Man, that "half-carrier" after deck is just an abortion.

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:51 am
by Reg
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

I wish I could read Japanese to surf around more, but some of the products are amazing.

If you run a Firefox web browser, try the product below...

http://www.foxlingo.com/

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RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:15 am
by Reg

An example using the eigo-navi translator.



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RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:35 am
by cantona2
Does IE have a function like that or will it translate using the translate into english tool?

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:51 am
by Reg

I'm not sure what of the capabilities of the latest IE as I use firefox.

However you can still use translator sites such as translate.google.com. Unfortunately you will have to look for and find these sites yourself.

FoxLingo just accesses all these external translator sites and integrates them into the Firefox browser. Keeps the list of translators up to date too.

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:05 pm
by Q-Ball
Bump, and this guy (or guys, not sure), are starting to post aircraft shots. The last couple DD's are also pretty crisp photos.

Anyone who hasn't checked out this blog, you're missing something.

Nice photo of a Judy at Rabaul, 1943. Didn't realize how big they were:


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RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:59 am
by Thesix
ORIGINAL: Reg

FoxLingo just accesses all these external translator sites and integrates them into the Firefox browser. Keeps the list of translators up to date too.
Thanks a lot for this interesting tool, but in this example I may miss something but I can't translate other pages but page one.
ie. If I'm watching page 163 and if I use the Web Page translation function, it opens and translates page 1!
Is it the same for you?

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:56 am
by Reg
ORIGINAL: Thesix

Thanks a lot for this interesting tool, but in this example I may miss something but I can't translate other pages but page one.
ie. If I'm watching page 163 and if I use the Web Page translation function, it opens and translates page 1!
Is it the same for you?

Sorry about taking so long to reply but Telstra accidentally disconnected my broadband connection whilst doing maintenance and would only reconnect me 'when they could fit the job in' which ended up being a week and a half later!!! Welcome to privatisation... [:(]

Now back to your problem... How on-line translators work is they download a page from its URL* (web address) and create a temporary translated version of the page which is sent to your browser from the translator site.

Note the URL of a translated page below:

[font="Courier New"]http://alice-group.amikai.com/amiweb/browser.jsp?url=http://blog.livedoor.jp/irootoko_jr/arc ... 17014.html&langpair=JA-EN&display=3&f_color=00[/font]

The red colour text is the URL of the translator site, the blue text is the page to be translated and the green text are options directed at the translator.

Your problem is that when you attempt to use one of the navigation widgets on the translated page, the browser attempts to get the next page from the translator (red text) site rather than the source (blue text) site. As the requested page doesn't exist on the translator site it defaults to a previously translated page from the source site (which is usually the home page if you viewed it first).

The fix: After viewing a translated page, simply use the browser 'Go Back' one page button to reload the untranslated version of the page from the source site (with the URL starting with blue text above), then use the navigation buttons to go to the next page you want to view and translate that page as normal. Repeat above procedure for next page.

I hope this has answered your question and hasn't confused you too much.

Cheers,
Reg.



Warning: Techno-babble follows...

[size=-1]* This URL must be unique for each page so sites with frames won't work properly. Note sites like http://www.adf-serials.com where the URL in the address box at the top of your browser doesn't change as you navigate around the site. This makes it impossible for the translator to download a specific page and also impossible for you to provide a link to a specific piece of information. Any attempt to access the site via the URL will end up on the home page. This is why frames aren't part of the W3C specification though sites often use this technique to prevent 'link stealing' and other dodgy practices.[/size]

Edited as trying to keep it simple....

RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:37 pm
by Wirraway_Ace
Has Cuttlefish seen the pic of hibiki in 41?


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RE: Amazing Colorized IJN Photos

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:05 pm
by Reg

Yep... Page 114, post 3392.