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RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:22 pm
by niceguy2005
ORIGINAL: Graycompany
Since some things will always be there and can be exploited, would it be worthwhile, in the case of PT Boats, to increase the point value of sinking them? That way if a player uses some of the exploits for the PT boats, at least there would be an offset. What do you think?
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RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:22 pm
by m10bob
I am sure the "Brewster Buffalo Bonus" will remain intact thru the AE testing.
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:25 pm
by DuckofTindalos
No such thing. Remember that WitP is a total JFB game...[8|]
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:05 pm
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Terminus
No such thing. Remember that WitP is a total JFB game...[8|]
THAT TEARS IT!!!!!![:@][;)]
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:12 pm
by Charbroiled
ORIGINAL: m10bob
I am sure the "Brewster Buffalo Bonus" will remain intact thru the AE testing.
Is the "BB Bonus" that it can get off the ground? [:D]
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:20 pm
by Dili
The "Shinyo" suicide boats taking precedence.
How this will work in game? Hits a ship and disapears?
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:47 pm
by DuckofTindalos
If you read the post properly, Joe was saying that the Japs didn't build as many MTB/MGB as they could have, because they built suicide boats instead. There are no suicide boats in the game.
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:15 pm
by Nomad
ORIGINAL: Terminus
If you read the post properly, Joe was saying that the Japs didn't build as many MTB/MGB as they could have, because they built suicide boats instead. There are no suicide boats in the game.
Why not? We have kamakazi aircraft that attack airfields, we should have kamakazi boats that attack army troops in the jungle. [:D]
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:59 pm
by jwilkerson
ORIGINAL: Dili
The "Shinyo" suicide boats taking precedence.
How this will work in game? Hits a ship and disapears?
IIRC essentially they are like a torpedo boat with only one torpedo. This means they might actually survive the attack - though I think this would be rare - I think it would be rare that they even GET to attack. But since the numbers in the game are very small - essentially an abstracted presence - then having one survive every now and then does not produce any super a-historical situation overall. A port that had some - would probably have a few that didn't attack during a given attack - so the survivors would represent new boats the next time they attack.
One day maybe we will write special code to enable something better for these guys, but as they are designed to be a side-show - will an ability to do about what they did in the real war - we didn't think it worth a whole new section of code.
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:09 am
by m10bob
ORIGINAL: Charbroiled
ORIGINAL: m10bob
I am sure the "Brewster Buffalo Bonus" will remain intact thru the AE testing.
Is the "BB Bonus" that it can get off the ground? [:D]
It has been said the plane handled like a rhino turning on a slippery mud bank.[:D]
We must remember it beat the F4f for the contract in 1940 !
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:50 am
by Yamato hugger
ORIGINAL: Nomad
Why not? We have kamakazi aircraft that attack airfields, we should have kamakazi boats that attack army troops in the jungle. [:D]
This is fixed in 1.807 btw. Dont know about AE (I assume so, but you know about ass u me I assume?)
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:02 am
by herwin
ORIGINAL: m10bob
ORIGINAL: Charbroiled
ORIGINAL: m10bob
I am sure the "Brewster Buffalo Bonus" will remain intact thru the AE testing.
Is the "BB Bonus" that it can get off the ground? [:D]
It has been said the plane handled like a rhino turning on a slippery mud bank.[:D]
We must remember it beat the F4f for the contract in 1940 !
Wasn't it originally a biplane design?
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:52 am
by Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger
ORIGINAL: Nomad
Why not? We have kamakazi aircraft that attack airfields, we should have kamakazi boats that attack army troops in the jungle. [:D]
This is fixed in 1.807 btw. Dont know about AE (I assume so, but you know about ass u me I assume?)
1.807????
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:25 pm
by mdiehl
Wasn't it originally a biplane design?
No. The F4F wildcat was originally a biplane design (the Grumman F3F1). The Brewster (F2) was designed as a monoplane at the behest of the Royal navy. The F2 started out decent enough but its performance suffered greatly as weight was added in various ways (armored glass, substitution of .50s for .30s, more cockpit protection) without substantial increases in power. It was a design that could have perhaps been saved by adding engine power, but Brewster aircraft was so thoroughly incompetently managed that it had to be managed by teams assigned by the USN. By the time Brewster got back in the business of making aircraft at a reasonable pace, designs had moved on to newer frames. Brewster made corsairs (F4Us) under the designation F3A1 for a bit during the war, but these a.c. were deemed "not combat worthy" because of egregious production quality flaws.
Here is a link to some photos of biplane Grumman F3Fs.
http://www.historicaircraft.org/Navy-Ai ... -F3F1.html
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:32 pm
by Q-Ball
That's pretty bad management to have trouble selling military aircraft during WW II. You could sell almost anything to the US GOV at that time. It's as easy as managing a whore house during a gold rush.
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:35 pm
by herwin
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
That's pretty bad management to have trouble selling military aircraft during WW II. You could sell almost anything to the US GOV at that time. It's as easy as managing a whore house during a gold rush.
Wasn't the Covenanter tank (UK) built by a boiler-maker? Eventually they were used for training.
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:32 pm
by DuckofTindalos
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger
ORIGINAL: Nomad
Why not? We have kamakazi aircraft that attack airfields, we should have kamakazi boats that attack army troops in the jungle. [:D]
This is fixed in 1.807 btw. Dont know about AE (I assume so, but you know about ass u me I assume?)
1.807????
Yeah, you know... 1.807... You haven't patched up yet?
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:55 pm
by Mike Solli
What?? [X(]
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:58 pm
by Mike Solli
Wise guy. [:'(] [:D]
RE: What's Fixed?
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:16 pm
by Splinterhead
ORIGINAL: mdiehl
Wasn't it originally a biplane design?
No. The F4F wildcat was originally a biplane design (the Grumman F3F1)...
That's incorrect. The F3F-1 was the fighter that the F4F-1 biplane and the F2A were in competition to replace.