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ORIGINAL: Krasny

This game looks like a frikkin bijou disasterette.

Alarm bells started ringing when I heard it was based on the great invasions engine. Another game that's a frikkin bijou disasterette.

And I'm too late to cancel my order from Amazon. [:@]

Alarm bells started ringing when I heard it was based on the Great Invasions engine. Another game that's a frikkin bijou disaterette.

AGEOD released this shoddy game on purpose. Screw them.

Matrix should offer a refund to all people who bought it at their site.

Hmm, not sure they released this "thing " on purpose...I dont think they want to help speed up Europe's recession

ORIGINAL: apathetic lurker
Hmm, not sure they released this "thing " on purpose...I dont think they want to help speed up Europe's recession

I agree. At a risk of sounding supportive of lazy software developers, there are a huge amount of different hardware and software configurations. For a smallish company to try to make a system perfectly compatible before release must be a near impossible task.
For the few small game company's that do accomplish this feat (or come very close to it) certainly deserve a huge amount of respect from us.
However, how in the hell did they not test an AMD Athlon 3500[&:]-its not that old.

ORIGINAL: Krasny

Never mind, it will be fixed by Christmas!

More humour for you [;)]

I got it!

I really like your sense of humour

I do see with the glass half empty analogy though. WW1 was a lot of trench warefare where nothing happened. Game simulates it well [:D]

As an addict of the board game version of La Grande Guerre (which is, by far, the best and most comprehensive WWI board game available), I can say that the computer game appears, so far, to be a very faithful (almost identical) treatment of the original board game.  The main difference being the area-based map, which is hex-based in the LGG board game.  That said, LGG is an acquired taste.  It is not an "action" game at all.  There are entire seasons where little combat takes place at all, but when lots is going on in diplomacy, politics, and the economic/production side of the game.  This is World War I, not WWII, so the action is slower, and success is often based on patient build up of supplies (RP/Mun), improved technologies, events, and improved tactics as the game goes on.  On balance, once some obvious interface and stability bugs are addressed, I think this will be a great game.  That said, I share the frustration of many with some of the clearly stupid bugs in the original release.

ORIGINAL: elmo3

I meant a review from someone like Jim Cobb @ The Wargamer or Armchair General.  Many companies give copies to reviewers prior to release so they can have reviews available soon after a game ships.  No idea if AGEOD did that or not.  If it takes 6 months then so be it.  Alternatively if the forum posters were glowing in their praise that might push me off the fence, but so far that is not happening.

I'll be doing a review but will wait for the patch. Anyway, the holidays mean I'm hip deep in reviews.

Looking forward to seeing what you think of the game Bismarck.

A patch is planned for monday. It should solve the stability problems which occur with certain hardware and fix reported gameplay bugs. [:)]

I just can't understand why AGEod entrusted this project to a third-party developer and on a new engine instead of using AGE which is the most brilliant engine for this abstraction level with the skilled hands of Pocus and the newcomer Hok, who's already proven his worth on WiA.

It's a question that truly pains me...I don't doubt that WW1 will arrive to a very high quality game in due time, as i said, i am positive about it but perhaps the release was premature given these starting considerations. This premise was a good enough reason to take this as an opportunity to change a certain development method that in the past has already given less than satisfying results in the very first days after a release...which are the most important ones for sales.

 

I just can't understand why AGEod entrusted this project to a third-party developer and on a new engine instead of using AGE which is the most brilliant engine for this abstraction level with the skilled hands of Pocus and the newcomer Hok, who's already proven his worth on WiA.

Quite.

ORIGINAL: GShock

I just can't understand why AGEod entrusted this project to a third-party developer and on a new engine ...

They are the publisher in this case, just like Matrix publishes lots of games they don't design or develop. And the engine is not new, it's the same one used for Great Invasions according to AGEOD.

ORIGINAL: GShock

I just can't understand why AGEod entrusted this project to a third-party developer and on a new engine instead of using AGE which is the most brilliant engine for this abstraction level with the skilled hands of Pocus and the newcomer Hok, who's already proven his worth on WiA.

Is it getting deep or what guys!

Just thought I would assist in the total hijack of this thread. [:D]

Well...

There is a games philosophy which says "keep pumping out games to remain in the spotlight."

Perhaps this philosophy was behind the release.

Personally, I am always leery of releases as Christmas approaches...

Ray (alias Lava)

There's no such thing as bad publicity eh?

I guess WW1 was the game AGEOD became a publisher that also designs, rather than a designer who also publishes.

They're turning ino the new Paradox.

ORIGINAL: Krasny

...I guess WW1 was the game AGEOD became a publisher that also designs, rather than a designer who also publishes.

They're turning ino the new Paradox.

<shudder> Let's hope not. There are already enough games with terrible manuals, brain dead AI, and a requirement to buy version 2 or 3 to get all the bugs fixes. Sorry for going OT but nobody has a review yet.

Well, the head of AGEod is an ex Paradox designer. I think apart from these temporary (but repeated) problems, so far they did a good job.
I think the reviewers will just mention the current problems as a note and will start publishing after the patching process begins...which is, after all, probably starting today.

ORIGINAL: GShock

Well, the head of AGEod is an ex Paradox designer. I think apart from these temporary (but repeated) problems, so far they did a good job.
I think the reviewers will just mention the current problems as a note and will start publishing after the patching process begins...which is, after all, probably starting today.

Not really, P.Thibaut was and still is an "independent" game designer, he sold rights to adapt EU to a PC game to Paradox, that's all.
Paradox used to death the engine they created then, but Philippe moved on with AGEOD, after Pax Romana, who was left unfinished by a publisher that went bankrupt...

<shudder> Let's hope not. There are already enough games with terrible manuals, brain dead AI, and a requirement to buy version 2 or 3 to get all the bugs fixes. Sorry for going OT but nobody has a review yet.

Actually Elmo I was refering to the new Paradox policy of publishing half a game at full price, and then charging to complete the game. However this is not a thread to bitch about Paradox. Try their forums. However EU3 and HoI2 remain great games.