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ORIGINAL: stuman

Historically, a BB wasn't also hit was it ? At least I don't remember that.

On 15 September, sailing with Wasp and Hornet, North Carolina took a torpedo portside, 20 feet (6 m) below her waterline, and six of her men were killed. This torpedo originated from Japanese submarine I-19, and other torpedoes in the same salvo sank Wasp. Skillful damage control by the crew of the North Carolina and the excellence of her construction prevented disaster; a 5.6 degree list was righted in as many minutes, and she maintained her station in a formation at 26 knots.

While escorting a convoy of transports en route to Guadalcanal, joint TFs 17 and 18 were attacked by the Japanese submarines I-15 and I-19 on 15 September 1942. Wasp (CV-7) was sunk; North Carolina (BB-55) and O’Brien were damaged by torpedo attacks.

At 14:52 that afternoon O’Brien sighted smoke coming from Wasp. As a member of Hornet’s (CV-8) ASW screen she made an emergency turn to the right. At about 14:54, while accelerating and swinging right, her lookouts spotted a torpedo two points forward of the port beam 1000 yards (915 m) away. This torpedo missed close astern, but while attention was concentrated on it another “fish” hit the port bow.

The explosion did little local damage, but set up severe structural stresses through the ship. Able to proceed under her own power, the destroyer on 16 September reached Espiritu Santo, where Curtiss made temporary repairs. O’Brien sailed on 21 September for Noumea, New Caledonia, for further repairs by Argonne (AG-31) before proceeding 10 October to San Francisco.

She made Suva on 13 October and sailed once more on 16 October. The rate of leaking continued to increase, and on 18 October it was necessary for O’Brien to proceed to the nearest anchorage. Topside weight was jettisoned and preparations were made for abandoning ship, but it was still thought that the ship could be brought intact to Pago Pago. However at 06:00 on 19 October the bottom suddenly opened up considerably and the forward and after portions of the hull began to work independently. At 06:30 all hands except a salvage crew went over the side; and half an hour later the ship was abandoned entirely. Just before 08:00 she went under, after steaming almost 3,000 miles (5,500 km) since torpedoed. All the crew were saved.

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Iridium, that is a great photo. I think that it's the first time I've seen it. 

ORIGINAL: dhuffjr2

Of note in the real action.  My old neighbors older brother lost his life on the Wasp.  He was a boilerman and was the first man in the Navy from Dayton Ohio to lose his life during WWII.  His mother and my neighbor were there and his mother broke the champagne bottle across the bow of the USS Dayton CL-105 at its launch.  Bud has the bottle shards contained in a net that the bottle is wrapped in prior to striking the vessel as well as some pictures.

ORIGINAL: Knavey

After careful consideration of all of the @$#%$%^ frustrations I have had with this game...THIS TAKES THE CAKE...NOT JUST THE CAKE...THE PIE, THE COOKIES, THE ICE CREAM SUNDAY, AND EVERY OTHER DESSERT UNDER THE SUN!

Wasp sunk, NC damaged, and the OB sunk also! ONE torpedo salvo...ONE! I can't get my subs to hit 1 ship 1 times, but this IJN crack shot gets 5 hits in one salvo!

I QUIT....MATRIX...FIX YOUR GAME! NO WAY THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED IN REAL LIFE!!!!!! [:@][:@][:@]


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/15/42

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Sub attack at 67,101

Japanese Ships
SS I-19, hits 2


Allied Ships
CV Hornet
CV Wasp, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB North Carolina, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD O'Brien, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Lansdowne
DD Mustin

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ORIGINAL: Sarconix

OK, I may be missing something but... is this:

a) A joke by the original poster?
b) The game intentionally recreating an historic event?
c) An incredibly unlikely coincidence?

Also, what was the Japanese submarine naming convention? Was it really just numerical ("I-19") or was that just the American designation for enemy subs?

ORIGINAL: wild_Willie2

I will try to explain for you new guys.

Once in a while Knavey posts a thread containing a "modified" combat report that actually reflects something which happend during WWII (usually some extreme result). He always names his posts something like: The game is BROKEN!!, or In REAL live this could NEVER happen!.

I personally think he does this to reflect on the unpredictability of war and to take the mikey out of people that are complaining about the "extreme" results that can somethimes happen during gameplay using the argument that this result could never have happened during the REAL war in the pacific...

And yes, the Japanese used numbers to designate subs, as did the Germans...

ORIGINAL: dhuffjr2

Of note in the real action. My old neighbors older brother lost his life on the Wasp. He was a boilerman and was the first man in the Navy from Dayton Ohio to lose his life during WWII. His mother and my neighbor were there and his mother broke the champagne bottle across the bow of the USS Dayton CL-105 at its launch. Bud has the bottle shards contained in a net that the bottle is wrapped in prior to striking the vessel as well as some pictures.

ORIGINAL: Hornblower

shocking attack.. NAaaaaaaaaaa Never happen... Next thing we'll hear is that in the game someone sank the IJN Taiho with one torp... Shocking..