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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:11 am
by rakshu
From the posting there appears to be a great deal of misconception of what can be done with multiple cores. Each core is a separate and distinct Central Processing Unit (CPU). Each core is scheduled separately by the OS. Even if an application is single-threaded, additional cores will speed up processing by handling ancillary/background tasks needed to run the system. A simple example, your editing program is running on a core, instead of interrupted that core to run your real-time protection program or even to update the clock on the task bar, a different core be assigned those tasks leaving the first core free to continue running your editing application. Multi-threaded application once written do not require re-writing unless the fundamental architecture changes. PS I am using a Dual Quad Core Computer (eight cores).
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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:53 am
by ajith
Any modern processor will handle way more memory than you could fit in a mainstream motherboard. The critical aspect is the operating system. 32 bit OSs which are the majority of the ones currently installed hit the wall at 3.2 GB of RAM. However, for the same price you can buy XP, Vista, etc. in 64 bit and then the amount of RAM you can access is effectively unreachable by the home computer user. I have 12 GB RAM in my new i7 920 with 64 bit Vista and it's AMAZING! ____________________________________________________________
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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:14 am
by dogancan
ORIGINAL: ajith

Any modern processor will handle way more memory than you could fit in a mainstream motherboard. The critical aspect is the operating system. 32 bit OSs which are the majority of the ones currently installed hit the wall at 3.2 GB of RAM. However, for the same price you can buy XP, Vista, etc. in 64 bit and then the amount of RAM you can access is effectively unreachable by the home computer user. I have 12 GB RAM in my new i7 920 with 64 bit Vista and it's AMAZING! ____________________________________________________________

thought having a 64bit machine needed something more than a 64bit OS, like a 64bit motherboard or something.[&:]

RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:24 am
by nenje
Maybe in Windows the time of the Quad core or even the Duo core hasn't arrived yet, but in Linux the multicore processors have been supported for a lot longer and I wouldn't be surprised if you find many more apps in Linux that are natively multithreaded. How about rerunning your comparison in Linux and see who's the winner there where neither processor has the advantage. Both are well supported in Linux where as many of the tests in Windows lopsidedly tainted toward Intel products. In other words, try a scenario where the processors are treated equally by the testing software. [/align] [/align]______________________________________________________________
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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:02 am
by sameera
You say Video editing; That application tells me you are a candidate for a quad core. You got a few answers from folks that were just spouting off about the basic question. Most folks are fine with dual core. I have an E8500 dual core. I do gaming. I don't do anything video or image editing. You do, so you quad core fits right up your alley.______________________________________________________
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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:56 am
by PILA
From the posting there appears to be a great deal of misconception of what can be done with multiple cores. Each core is a separate and distinct Central Processing Unit (CPU). Each core is scheduled separately by the OS. Even if an application is single-threaded, additional cores will speed up processing by handling ancillary/background tasks needed to run the system. A simple example, your editing program is running on a core, instead of interrupted that core to run your real-time protection program or even to update the clock on the task bar, a different core be assigned those tasks leaving the first core free to continue running your editing application. Multi-threaded application once written do not require re-writing unless the fundamental architecture changes. PS I am using a Dual Quad Core Computer (eight cores).
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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:13 am
by leena
Yes, because although the multithreadedness of applications is inevitable, making the quad core a good choice for a long term system build, the validity of DX10 is highly questionable and may be entirely a moot point as we approach DX11. We're already at DX10.1 and many believe that the day of proprietary graphic standards may be at an end.
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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:19 am
by thiagu
I would suggest you to get an intel duo processor ....

mayB an E8400 or E7500

but ya didnt state ur budget cause if u r on a budget crysis u may consider getting an AMD x2 processor....

In the end since u arent gaming its best to go for an INTEL processor =)

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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:11 am
by RANH
I'm just wondering as how long have AMD and Intel had a 64-bit chip out there? I'm thinking a while and so there is a chicken and egg sort of battle going on about the 64 bit stuff as there is a 64-bit Windows XP version as well as Vista but there are driver issues that seem to be needed for wide acceptance but the makers of the hardware need wide acceptance before making those drivers, so what will break the stalemate? In the server world there are some applications that will require a 64-bit O/S like Exchange 2007 but I wonder what desktop or laptop application could need more than 4 GB of memory to run properly.
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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:29 pm
by madgamer2
Well I can only speak for myself but tests on my own system using either the on board sound on my M3N72-D Asus Mobo and my USB 2.0 external Asus sound card and 5.1 sound system. The sound system is just your basic mid priced system.
My tests show that the on board was slower and in my opinion not as good quality as the USB Asus sound card and speaker system. I used the same speakers in both tests so if your playing games on board is not that good and does slow your system down but then this is just me.

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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:35 pm
by madgamer2
L-O-L you actually PLAY WW1? Stout Lad!

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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:35 am
by berndn
I think multicores are the current way. But for most dual cores are fine. And you get higher speed dual cores then quad cores. A different thing is the new core5/7i CPUs from Intel. I'm not sure about it.
For someone who is mostly using the PC for gaming I would still recommend dual cores. If you are like me and do virtualisation or video or photo editing it's better to have more then 2 cores.

64 bit is a different story. Microsoft has finally realized that Windows Server versions should have more then 4 GB RAM and releases Windows 2008 R2 only as a 64 bit version. For a PC which is used for games and web browsing I would use a 32 bit system because it can adress 4 GB RAM and that's enough. Like the cores it depends what you are doing.

I have started with Vista 64 bit and I'm now running Windows 7 64 bit and have no issues with drivers. Windows XP 64 bit however can give you some driver problems.

Anyone is using a core5i or core7i ?

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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:21 am
by gowtham
In overclocker circles, the hot topic of the moment is whether or not a quad-core CPU is better than a dual-core. We did many hardware tests to find out. After all, one of the most important questions when you try to put together a powerful new system is which combination of Core 2 processor, motherboard and RAM offers the best value for your money. One of the prerequisites is, naturally, that the system has to offer good overclocking potential in order give you high performance at a low price. That means that you can forget about buying a preconfigured system online or from your local computer around the corner - instead you should have full control over the choice of components.
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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:48 pm
by blemishednicely
Here's 2 quick questions:

1. What's the diff (if any) between dual core and duo (centrino, I think)? which is better or more powerful, also (not nec same) which's more recent?

2. My A100 *SUCKS* like we're talking not even 3 yrs old & can't run UFO Enemy Unknown (circa 1999) without overloading hurtin shared (AAGH-hate it) GCA very shortly, so I was gonna buy a new mobile. I WAS planning (pretty much after I turned on A100 for 1st time) way back to replace mobile with AlienWare (M-80, I think) cuz those boys had a company model down right. Go figure by the time I decided they were stable (company only began around '95, but OMFG non-proprietary software...HEAVEN!!!), decided to jump in and *DUN-DAH-DUUH*.....they sold themselves to Dell (the very type of company they were against in ideals when they began waging war on poorly comprised, ill explained, command lines needed but not provided DOS days-it's WHY they began in 1st place! 1st true "right out of the box" rigs made)

NEEDLESS to say I'm disheartened and ready to scrub my dreams of glowing badass portable gameboxes but before I do, has anyone TRIED one of these (what I-DISAPPROVINGLY-call) "DellWare's"?

Did they have the brains to keep AlienWare AS IS & reserve it as their "high end" line, or did they just go for the fast cash and start stuffing as much stuff as they could direct from their own production line inside, forever cheapening the A-W brand & effectively killing their golden goose?

won't buy till I know & like hell Cust Serv Rep'll gimme a straight answer...my ToshA100 taught me that much at least-

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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:19 pm
by Ron Belcher
Personally, I'm using an AMD Phenom II X4 910 Processor @ 2.60 GHZ w/ 8GB (3.50 GB usable).
Have Windows 7 32-bit OS installed. I did the 'upgrade' to Vista move. I want to say the only
problem I had was in the upgrading. Well, I put in the W7 64-bit "on top" of the Vista 32-bit. [:-]

lol [:D]

That's a no-no![X(]

Yeah, please flamethrowers aside. I should've known better! 32-bit to 32-bit. Play it safe. Not
only that, Adobe didn't appreciate the 64-bit architecture either. Flashplayer was very confused.
I decided, since the W7 upgrade package came with both DVDs to support 32-bit/64-bit, I installed
the 32-bit. Viola![;)] That made every program happy ! I feel the need to up my RAM though.
Sure, I've 3.5 GB useable. But, I feel more comfortable in knowing I have more than that ready.

Sorry to inject my experiences, I hope it helps some! [8D]

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RE: Dual vs Quad Core.

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:16 am
by Ron Belcher
There still seems to be confusion on all sides of the 64-bit contraversy. Here, I thought that installing Windows 7 64bit program
would run with ease. That wasn't how I found it out to be. I reverted to Windows 7 32bit, and every program is getting along
very nicely.

Even still, I have 8 gigs of RAM & only 3.5 gigs are left available. [:D]