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Which is a shame, becuase Justin and Mike are working on amazing game.

ORIGINAL: Chad Harrison


With the NDA, obviously I may have said too much already, but I just wanted to attempt to be one calming voice here.

Cut them some slack. CF has not been forgotten.

Hope this helps.

Chad

ORIGINAL: RGIJN

Thanks for posting here chad. But as you can see things have heated up. And IMHO I think it´s not too much to expect at least some little info/update/feedback from Justin (Tankerace) after all what we contributed to his thread and all the announcements made about Carrier Force so far.
That´s everything I call for. But I can´t even remember his last post at all... So don´t wonder if we got to assume it´s a dead project hence.

Or am I wrong?

If not go and tell ´em what´s up here. They could shed some light on it. Of course this is not your business, even more so considering the NDA issue.

Thanks for understanding RGIJN. I know that the hostile attidude of one is not shared by everyone else here.

Let me drop Justin a line and see if we can get some information regarding CF in here.

ORIGINAL: Ike99

Yes, and while your dropping that line ask him where was he in the night carrier bombing debate? The question was asked how CF was going to adress this issue.

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

The reason CF is not listed under a coming soon and in development forum is mainly because I haven't asked for one yet. The more time Mike, I, or any of the beta testers spend answering questions, then the less time we have to work on the game.

CF, in its current form is actually very stable. I call it "semi-playable" because it is not finished, nor is it anywhere near "ready for release" and it most definately is not finished and ready for beta testing. As a UV style game, it is playable. As what we want for Carrier Force as its own game, we still have a lot of work to go.

Once CF enters the true beta stage, and we have a ballpark release date I will ask for CF forum to be created - but not before then. It has been my experience - namely, War Plan Orange, that as soon as the forum opens the public expects a release anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months from that date. It is not so much a fear of hindering the game's progress, but of stirring up the public over an "imminent" release that is still months away. And then being swamped with "This is Vaporware" "Matrix is Bad" blah blah posts.

I point you to the Guns of August forum. I don't know how many "This is vaporware!" posts I've read in that forum, because that forum was around since it was in Alpha. It was active when I was designing WPO back in late 2004, and the game just came out this month. I don't intend for the same thing to happen here, so I will wait until the game is in Alpha OR until there are so many CF posts in this forum (as was the case with WPO in the WitP forums) that Matrix creates a forum to deal with it of their own accord.

I would be happy to answer any pertinent questions - but keep in mind that as the game is in Alpha stage and things are subject to change, I may or may not comment on everything (this is just a disclaimer basically, lol).

As producer of Carrier Force, maybe I can answer a few questions. Carrier Force IS under development, and is moving forward. At this stage, as Mike said, it is still in Alpha testing, but is relatively playable right now. No release date is set right now, but I can confirm it is not vaporware.

Actually I can verify that CF is NOT the only game being produced that doesn't have an in development forum. I can think of two others of the top of my head. I know one is hush hush, dunno about the other.

Again, asking a question won't delay CF. Being deluged might (at least if Mike is answering them all, and that is what HE has told me). Also, with regards to CF testers, we have about 12 actually, almost all of whom post regularly (though I suspect mainly in the WitP forums). Given that the testers have all agreed to respect my wishes regarding Non disclosure, you'll do better just asking me or Mike Wood a question.

Again, I have no problem answering questions. But I do not (again, like with WPO) have a desire to play rumor control.

With such openly hostile, rude and self-righteous posts, I dont know how you expect anyone to ever reply to you.

Ike-Doubtful they even read the other thread on CF or will read this one unless someone PM them about it.

Chad-Let me drop Justin a line and see if we can get some information regarding CF in here.

ORIGINAL: RGIJN

[font="Trebuchet MS"]started the thread, not another war. So I´d recommend to calm down and keep quiet as long as "the developers" develop their response. Meanwhile, we´re just pretty excited to read something new.

But of course it should not take another year to respond!!! Since the weekend is looming, there is plenty of time for them to show up and for us to enjoy playing UV... [8D][/font]

Chad - don´t repeat those ancient posts. The long spacing since those days are the reason for this thread here. I was asking for true and present, actual and current info from the CF team.
Let´s just see what happens!

IKE - calm down and let them show up. If they don´t, our presumptions will get proved right. (what I do not hope!)

Ike , I think it's clear for most to see your tone in this thread towards the developer is over the top.

I want Carrier Force as bad as the next person, I've asked for information in the forums and they weren't addressed, a month or so ago I PM'd one of the developers asking about info and have recieved no reply. I'm disapointed as well as the next person about the lack of info but there's a right way and wrong way to go about asking things.

ORIGINAL: Ike99

I´m not over the top. They´re over the top.

Chad Harrison-Thats the first time I have ever had to use the green button . . .

For everyone else, I have been in contact with Joel and Justin and they are aware of this thread and that you are all looking for a status update of CF. With the NDA and all, this is obviously out of my power.

Thanks again for all your patience.

Hopefully we will be playing CF PBEM soon enough.

Tankerace-Once CF enters the true beta stage, and we have a ballpark release date I will ask for CF forum to be created - but not before then.

Over the "flat" top?

Ike, I know your life isn't on hold waiting for this game, and not only have I been waiting for CF, but BftB as well.
Well, maybe next Xmas.

I've also had similar qualms re CF because it wasn't listed on the Matrix "In Development" section, but I was assured -- some time ago -- that it was (very) quietly being developed.

I point you to the Guns of August forum. I don't know how many "This is vaporware!" posts I've read in that forum, because that forum was around since it was in Alpha.

And Why will I not be BUYING this game ???? Because I can not get a simple answer to a question I posted before X-mass..........

Man........ Frank and Matrix tech support is really going down Hill FAST............(

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