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RE: Harpoon 3 scenarios for the PlayersDB
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:47 am
by CV32
ORIGINAL: VCDH
When I worked for Holland America back in the 90's, I learned that no matter what you do, you are not going to make everyone happy. And no matter how hard you try, there's always going to be some people that you can't make happy.
I'm surprised that you didn't learn that until the 90's. (I'm being facetious, of course). [:)]
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:52 am
by Anonymous
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Harpoon 3 scenarios for the PlayersDB
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:27 pm
by hermanhum
ORIGINAL: VCDH
If AGSI were to make every aspect of the game customizable by the user, then the game would be needlessly complex and the user would most likely spend more time on set up than he would playing the game. I think we can all assume that, compared to the number of people that play this game, the actual number of people that want the ability to have a custom picture file is minimal. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised one bit if could dispense with the plural and use the singular in a description of it.
That might be true, but the game already allows for customized text. It is silly to do one and not both, IMO.
I do agree that the number of folks who might want the ability to manage an image collection may be small. However, one database author (WW2Db) has already demonstrated a willingness to do so. I have no idea how popularly his work has been distributed, but it is proof positive that there is a need for this flexibility.
I have already expressed a similar view to IncredibleTwo. I am not certain that such an image library is going to be widely disseminated due to size issues, either. However, I am helping in his project because of the possibility that it might turn out otherwise. As usual, looks like users will just have to rely upon their own resources to get around ANW 'features'. [:(]
RE: Harpoon 3 scenarios for the PlayersDB
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:39 pm
by rsharp@advancedgamin
The game is already set up to allow the databases to have their own picture folders. The question is whether the launcher is set up to handle it correctly. By memory it seems it was but have not had the time to check.
One might look through our public wiki to see how it might be set up.
On another note, it would pretty cool if we could set up a mechanism where each database author registers for a range of picture IDs. AGSI or some other entity could act like the FCC to allow everyone to live harmonously. It would be even better if this happened spontaneously. Okay, enough kidding around.
Harpoon 3 [ANW] scenarios for the PlayersDB
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:41 pm
by hermanhum
ORIGINAL: VCDH
As one of five DB authors [of the seven DBs going around] I really don't see the need to increase my workload, especially when we all have real lives and jobs. At least two of those guys, myself being one of them, have jobs that require us to be away from home alot.
Moreover, how does this idea for separate image libraries affect you or anyone else in AGSI in the slightest? You can continue to add images to the default library as is currently being done. If the game doesn't find an DBPics folder within it an individual Database folder, it uses the default files; which means that
you would totally and wholly unaffected.
Harpoon 3 scenarios for the PlayersDB
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:10 pm
by hermanhum
ORIGINAL: rsharp@advancedgamin
The game is already set up to allow the databases to have their own picture folders. The question is whether the launcher is set up to handle it correctly. By memory it seems it was but have not had the time to check.
I believe that you are correct. I just tested by:
1) Moving the DBPics folder to the ANWDB folder alongside the Text sub-folder
2)
Manually changed the Harpoon.ini file settings from:
ResDir1 C:\Harpoon 3.9.0.0\DATABASES\ANWDB\Text
ResDir2 C:\Harpoon 3.9.0.0\Resource\DBPics
to
ResDir1 C:\Harpoon 3.9.0.0\DATABASES\ANWDB\Text
ResDir2 :\Harpoon 3.9.0.0\DATABASES\ANWDB\DBPics
And the proper images do appear in the viewer.
If the ANW Configuration launcher could be altered so that it changed the location of the Text file and DBPics file at the same time, I think that everything might work.
RE: Harpoon 3 scenarios for the PlayersDB
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:23 pm
by rsharp@advancedgamin
Try putting a Pics folder in a database folder with the res files. See if the Launcher picks up on that by setting the ini key's the proper value when you select that database.
Harpoon 3 scenarios for the PlayersDB
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:30 pm
by hermanhum
That seems to have solved the tracking problem. Creation of a Pics sub-folder within a database folder will work. I think that IncredibleTwo will be very happy to know this. [:)]
RE: Harpoon 3 scenarios for the PlayersDB
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:06 pm
by Bucks
Well since I was "absent" everyone can start the applause for me for this now I'm back...
Sent: Wednesday 8th April 2009 - 2127 EST (Australian) - GMT +10
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Rusty,
I’m not 100% on this, as I’m not sure if you changed the coding or just the default installation behaviour.
Open the harpoon.ini file, back it up first and Try modding these lines;
============================================
; Directories where resource files are stored
; ============================================
ResDirCount 4
ResDir1 C:\Matrix Games\Harpoon 3 Advanced Naval Warfare 3.10\DATABASES\ANWDB\Text
ResDir2 C:\Matrix Games\Harpoon 3 Advanced Naval Warfare 3.10\Resource\DBPics <- EDIT THIS AFTER CREATING AND PLACING PHOTOS IN RELEVANT DATABASE FOLDER.
To:
ResDir2 C:\Matrix Games\Harpoon 3 Advanced Naval Warfare 3.10\DATABASES\ANWDB\DBPics
ResDir3 C:\Matrix Games\Harpoon 3 Advanced Naval Warfare 3.10\Resource
ResDir4 C:\Matrix Games\Harpoon 3 Advanced Naval Warfare 3.10\Sound
Warn them they risk causing issues, but I believe that modification used to work. All you’re doing is telling the game where to look for the pics?
I do know a little about the game, people just have to ask. I'm really a nice guy [;)]
I'm Australian, get over it I'm joking [:D] - All you have to do is work out what I'm joking about.
Cheers
Darren
RE: Harpoon 3 scenarios for the PlayersDB
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:07 pm
by CV32
Welcome back, Darren. [8D]
RE: Harpoon 3 scenarios for the PlayersDB
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:52 pm
by Bucks
Cheers Brad,
I'll have to drop by the Harpgamer IRC and see who I run into. I've been meaning to catch up with Kelly and Dewayne for a while now.
All the best to you and Tony and the HCE work, I may have some more photos for you guys soon if you're interested?
Darren