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The Battlefront system doesn't bother me at all, esp. since you don't have cd checks any more.

I guess you blokes will have to go crack hunting if Battlefront ever goes belly up and you feel like playing one of your newer games from them.

I still play a lot of older wargames from the 80's and early 90's. There is a grand total of one company left from those days: SSG. I would be hunting down patches from who knows where to play most of these games if they had the back to base function in them.

ORIGINAL: sapper_astro

I guess you blokes will have to go crack hunting if Battlefront ever goes belly up and you feel like playing one of your newer games from them.

Not at all.Battlefront have said that if they go tits up, they will remove the e-license requirements from their games.

ORIGINAL: The Plodder

ORIGINAL: sapper_astro

I guess you blokes will have to go crack hunting if Battlefront ever goes belly up and you feel like playing one of your newer games from them.

Not at all.Battlefront have said that if they go tits up, they will remove the e-license requirements from their games.

Right. Wonder how they would do that if they were bought out or in liquidation[:D]

It is a useless system that pirates bypass in 5 minutes. I will buy from them when they get rid of this crap.

I dont buy anything with DRM

why, one game SH3 totally messed up my system after I uninstalled it, both my drives quit reading disks.
Nothing I could do would remove it, this was very early before all the uproar and before the release the removal tool. (it was starforce and I had to replace my CD drives and reinstall XP )
since then I do not install anything before reseaching what if any DRM it has

ORIGINAL: bean5671

why, one game SH3 totally messed up my system after I uninstalled it, both my drives quit reading disks.
Nothing I could do would remove it, this was very early before all the uproar and before the release the removal tool. (it was starforce and I had to replace my CD drives and reinstall XP )

Welcome to the Starfarce victims club. You get so many ill-informed people claiming that we are all either 'pirates' or figments of the imagination you almost start to believe it.

ORIGINAL: bean5671

I dont buy anything with DRM

why, one game SH3 totally messed up my system after I uninstalled it, both my drives quit reading disks.
Nothing I could do would remove it, this was very early before all the uproar and before the release the removal tool. (it was starforce and I had to replace my CD drives and reinstall XP )
since then I do not install anything before reseaching what if any DRM it has

Why not try again? I heard they give 20000$ to person who proves that Starforce does anything like this.

really 20 grand? where did you hear that is there a website

I should be able to find the repair records from my old companies IT guy(I worked for a big software company at the time) he told me that starforce was the problem and helped me remove it

ORIGINAL: bean5671

really 20 grand? where did you hear that is there a website

I should be able to find the repair records from my old companies IT guy(I worked for a big software company at the time) he told me that starforce was the problem and helped me remove it

I wouldn't get too excited. Last time I heard it was $10k, although I think the 'offer' is long gone. Either that, or everyone has just forgotten about it.

Your repair records won't help, anyway. The deal was that you take both yourself and your computer to their office.. in Moscow. With the expense of that, the proviso that your PC still had to be under warranty, and doubt that people whose honesty and integrity was seriously questionable would ever actually pay up, amazingly enough nobody claimed it. Oh, nearly forgot... add to that their promise to publicly mock you on their website if it turned out not to be Starfarce after all. But, after all, these are the people who quite deliberately posted links to illegal downloads of GalCiv 2 on their own forum to demonstrate how 'misguided' Stardock's approach to copy protection (or lack of it) was. I just find it depressing they are still in business.

Hertston
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I just find it depressing they are still in business.

Totally agree!

 Here. It's 10,000$, not 20,000$ though. Yeah, and a trip to Moscow.

ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

Hertston
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I just find it depressing they are still in business.

Totally agree!

Me, three!

That starforce crew could give lessons in how to tick people off and make enemies. That GalCivII fiasco, earned starforce as the first drm that I boycotted.

ORIGINAL: Greybriar

ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

Hertston
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I just find it depressing they are still in business.

Totally agree!

Me, three!

Frankly, it just tells a lot about gamers. Many are so addicted that they have nothing against supporting people like those.

ORIGINAL: sapper_astro

I had an attack over it on their forums some time ago, and was leapt upon by the regulars, and none too politely told to get stuffed if I didn't like it. I promptly went to a taxidermist straight away.

Yeah, it's annoying how gaming crackheads jump to defend their dealers.

Anyway, I've read some interesting false dichotomies about how it's a choice between "DRM or death of PC gaming".

Since numbers of pirate copies only go up, with no difference as to what DRM is used, the argument of "DRM or Death" is, frankly, idiotic. There is actually a strong argument that less copy protection is better, as the people who pirate games are not actually wanting to play the games, just having the thrill of being the first person to crack the DRM. The game is then released as "proof" of their abilities.