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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2000 5:34 pm
by Spunkgibbon
Originally posted by Voriax:
Btw, if you think about it, in many cases turning entire hull instead of a turret is faster.
Michael Wittmann, the famous German tanks ace rarely rotated his turret choosing instead to turn the whole hull. He did this in all the tanks he commanded including the Tiger. Apparently he got into the habit when he commanded a Stug earlier in his career.


Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2000 2:36 am
by Tombstone
Having to pay for turning hexsides manually is probably the single largest wish I could think of. It's adds a TON more to the tactical decision making the player has to go through. Maybe it could be an option? In response to someone who said that they would never purchase assault guns if they had to pay for turning: StuG-III's are notorious for being one of the MOST cost effective units in the game. Pak40 is good enough to get through almost any unit's side armor or front at close range, and it has good enough front armor to take 'some' hits as well as the carrying capacity to schlep folks around. If it had to pay to turn then maybe I'd buy those expensive german tanks. (except that the costs are a little more equal now in SPWAW.)

Tomo

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2000 2:58 am
by BA Evans
Originally posted by von Curow:
Here's another thought. I often find that when I have a unit appear from out of deep woods on the flank of some tanks (and even turretless AFVs!), one or more of the enemy tanks (which might even be 15 or more hexes away) turns and fires at my unit... and often this is 20+% chance to hit. This sometimes completely takes away any advantage of outflanking your opponent, when your outflanking force gets devastated by opportunity fire.

KC
So when the tank turns to face your flank attack it is now exposing its side or rear to your main force? This doesn't sound like much of a problem to me. The whole point of a flank attack is that no matter which way the enemy tank faces, someone has a shot at its side/rear.

Do you coordinate your flank attack to occur when the enemy tanks are already engaged from the front? If you do, SOMEONE is getting a side shot at them. I don't unleash my flank attacks until the enemy is already occupied from another direction.

This sounds like a tactics problem, not a game mechanic problem.

BA Evans