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RE: Total War
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:04 am
by IronWarrior
Well I'm sure he's better than me too, I'm not exactly winning this game. [:D]
RE: Total War
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:06 am
by terje439
The way I see it;
*I get -.5 due to low NM
*I am not so sure about the upgrades really. Had it been DC then yes, with IC not so much since effects of upgrades are a little different.
*Although I have alot of generals, I have alot of incapable generals
*Untill total war was declared I had monetary issues, and was never able to expand my army the way I wanted, nor to build any corps etc
But we'll see. IMO I think you did a huge mistake by going with total war IW. Think you will be unable to fullfill it. Even now with Turkey stabbing me in the back. Turkey will win her war against me in a turn or two, so you will not get much help from her. And to get to my eastern provinces you will have a loooong supply chain. Now just where are my guerillas hiding?
But I am really enjoying it!
Terje
RE: Total War
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:16 pm
by lenin
ORIGINAL: Anthropoid
Should be interesting. Whoever said Russia was "allied" with Prussia?!?
Our treaty of alliance did? Or is that worthless now?
Prussia stands ready with 400,000 troops to guarantee the borders of her allies, against whoever their enemies might be...
RE: Total War
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:19 pm
by IronWarrior
Hehe you're probably right Terje, but I wanted to at least make things interesting (and experiment a little since the game has ongoing bugs anyway). [:)]
My reasoning for choosing total war wasn't necessarily to succeed in taking all of the Austrian provinces (perhaps in the long run, but wasn't counting on it), but to attempt to cripple Austria's army enough so that I could focus on the British-Prussian alliance. There's no way I could take on all three of you at once. Now that Turkey has joined in, I might still have a fighting chance to make a last gas attempt at taking on the juggernaut alliance. I'm really starting to think that Britian is in the best shape to win this one.
RE: Total War
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:20 pm
by Mus
ORIGINAL: IronWarrior
I'm really starting to think that Britian is in the best shape to win this one.
Always with the bad vibes. Great Britain just wants to be free to make and export groooovy music baby... YEAH!!!
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:04 am
by terje439
ORIGINAL: IronWarrior
I'm really starting to think that Britian is in the best shape to win this one.
[8|]
Why do not people listen to me...I believe I said this at turn 10 or something...[;)]
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:01 am
by terje439
OK, now that this has been tested for some time, what is your verdict IW?
Total War is it worth the risk?
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:36 am
by Mus
ORIGINAL: terje439
[8|]
Why do not people listen to me...I believe I said this at turn 10 or something...[;)]
I disagree strongly with the assessment I stand a really good chance to finish Another PBEM in 1st place.
Great Britain has a really hard time competing with with many other countries that have all these political target provinces with which to rack up Glory.
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:46 pm
by lenin
And I don't know why everyone is obsessed with the idea I'm about to immediately win the game! We've played 5 years and I'm not even half way there yet. Now if people would stop declaring senseless wars against me, plotting to stab me in the back from the Eastern front, declare total war against their allies and neighbours or conduct provocative diplomatic missions on Prussian held territory, there would not be so many opportunities for Prussia to gain large amounts of Glory. It was such reckless adventurism that led to the position we have now.....
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:18 pm
by terje439
ORIGINAL: lenin
And I don't know why everyone is obsessed with the idea I'm about to immediately win the game! We've played 5 years and I'm not even half way there yet. Now if people would stop declaring senseless wars against me, plotting to stab me in the back from the Eastern front, declare total war against their allies and neighbours or conduct provocative diplomatic missions on Prussian held territory, there would not be so many opportunities for Prussia to gain large amounts of Glory. It was such reckless adventurism that led to the position we have now.....
And all this time I thought it all started with some diplomatic issues started by the Austrians [:D]
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:49 pm
by IronWarrior
ORIGINAL: terje439
OK, now that this has been tested for some time, what is your verdict IW?
Total War is it worth the risk?
Yes, it can be. I made too many mistakes (not garrisoning occupied territories which I learned too late), and misreading intentions of other nations. If Spain and Russia would have joined in, and I had not made mistakes, I think it could have been well worth it. Like I say, it was an experiment and I learned what I did wrong.
No question it is tough to do against an ally of Britain that is feeding subsidies, but under the circumstances I still think it was the only chance France had. With Prussia at 1000 GP's and halfway home, She only needs to win some large battles and make France and Turkey surrender. If nothing else France gained about 400 GP's from it. Everyone needs to realise France was in last place and if I remember, was hovering around zero GP's before total war started. Not sure how anyone believes they can catch Prussia by making alliances with them and fighting the powers that try to stop them, but maybe I'm missing something.
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:22 pm
by terje439
ORIGINAL: IronWarrior
but maybe I'm missing something.
Yup, it is all about "the boot" [:D]
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:34 pm
by aprezto
Diplomatic kudos to the Prussians then. It does appear they should be the 'France' of your reality, a few blind eyes and personal greed???
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:48 pm
by IronWarrior
ORIGINAL: terje439
Yup, it is all about "the boot" [:D]
lol the Tug-of-War for the "Boot" continues...
I think the real winner between France and Austria will be whomever ends up with the most Italian provinces at the end. [:D]
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:37 pm
by IronWarrior
I forgot to mention, another thing that hurt me was when right after a large battle that France won, Sweden caused an insurrection in Holland and I lost the entire Batavian Army (might be a bug?)... a large number of forces. I was unable to pursue the Austrians and I lost some time having to reform.
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:57 pm
by lenin
I still find it amusing that the power that is 3-4 times richer than Prussia, has a larger territory, larger and better trained army, and probably twice the mobilisation limit continues to insist on calling the Prussians a "powerhouse"?
RE: Total War
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:58 pm
by lenin
ORIGINAL: IronWarrior
I forgot to mention, another thing that hurt me was when right after a large battle that France won, Sweden caused an insurrection in Holland and I lost the entire Batavian Army (might be a bug?)... a large number of forces. I was unable to pursue the Austrians and I lost some time having to reform.
Nope, it's not a bug.
RE: Total War
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:04 am
by lenin
ORIGINAL: aprezto
Diplomatic kudos to the Prussians then. It does appear they should be the 'France' of your reality, a few blind eyes and personal greed???
If Prussia was the "France" of this game, she would have fought unprovoked wars against all of her neighbours and gobbled up all the surrounding minors by force. In reality, she has fought 2 wars against France (first time was attacked, second time pre-empted a French attack) and has conquered precisely 2 territories. The rest of the Prussian state has fallen into her hands as a result of aggressive actions by her neighbours. Oh, and the war against the Turks was provoked by a previous DOW on Prussia by Turkey, continued hostie diplomatic actions, and an invasion by Turkey of a Prussian ally.
The real "blind eyes" seem to belong to those powers who insist on supporting the real military powerhouse of the game, who makes no secret of coverting neighbouring territories.
RE: Total War
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:04 am
by IronWarrior
Really? I thought once a nation controls a country's forces, it was permanent. Do they revert back to neutral? Did that change with the patch?
RE: Total War
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:21 am
by IronWarrior
ORIGINAL: lenin
I still find it amusing that the power that is 3-4 times richer than Prussia, has a larger territory, larger and better trained army, and probably twice the mobilisation limit continues to insist on calling the Prussians a "powerhouse"?
France is by no means a powerhouse in 1796 or 1792 like it is in 1803 or 1805. Being richer than Prussia? not so sure if you calculate all the subsidies from GB. Doubtful about mob limit considering Prussia has a larger army than France.
I can't say that Prussia is this game's France, because usually it's France vrs the world and Prussia is allied with everyone except France and Turkey. [:D]
To get an idea of the situation, here's the current GP standings. What would you have done? I can't say that Total War against Austria was the wrong decision at the time. [;)]
