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The way I see it, if it's possible to include ships via the editor,then why not I say,the scuttled High Seas Fleet was a terrible waste,I prefer to use them as a stronger axis force,along with the Italian,Japanese the more the better is the way forward in my opinion,it's a far more interesting game with all these ships added.

Whew! I can't keep up with your posts here! [:)]. Huge waste indeed. Amazing how by 1922, when WPO starts, the world's second most powerful fleet only 3 years earlier is rusting underwater in Scapa Flow! Of course, the French and Italians were already saying at the time they wanted to boost their fleets with captured German warships, which was why British and American admirals considered the scuttling a blessing in disguise.

But lots of great alternate history opportunities here!

Anyway, I really gotta go to work now! Talk to you later! [;)]

Tata the noo catch you later[;)]

ORIGINAL: Connfire

Connfire,my favourite ship of all time is the German ww2 battlecruiser Scharnhorst,I'm thinking about adding her in to my scenario here for WAR PLAN ORANGE,I have done the art work for all the German 2nd world war ship's already,I use them in WAR IN THE PACIFIC ADMIRALS EDITION,I prefer WPO because it deals more with ships, and not all them ***** Aircraft Carriers with there ***** planes pissing me off all the time.

Agree - carriers are cool in their own right, but WPO is unique as it allows the battleships be the capital ships they were built to be, while (mostly) uninterrupted by endless waves of carrier and shore-bassed aircraft.

Its funny, when I first read your post, I initially thought you were talking about the WWI armored cruiser Scharnhorst. That was another scenerio I was thinking - WWI takes place in the Pacific instead of Europe, with the German Asiatic Fleet operating out of Tsingtao, Truk, and other former German colonies. I just got done reading "Castles of Steel", so WWI is on my mind.

I really enjoyed Castles of Steel I read it a couple of years ago [:)]

This book Castles of Steel,I'm afraid I have not read it yet,but I will try to track a copy down and read it,thats if I can find the time with all the ship art needing done.I think the art that comes with the game is pretty poor,and is desparately in need of a revamp.[8D]

Ok folks the Virginia class Pre-Dreadnought has just been done.[8D]

I will be starting on the Connecticut class later today.

I really enjoyed Castles of Steel I read it a couple of years ago

It was a great book - reading it was my reward for finishing its prequel, Dreadnought, which ends the very second that World War I begins. I was sorry when I finally got to the ending of Castles of Steel, as I was really enjoying it. Too bad the author can't put out a third book on the subject, but the Dreadnought era really ended with the scuttling of the High Seas Fleet in 1919.

Dreadnought was fun, too, in a different way. The Royal and Imperial German Navies only took a portion of that book, and much of the rest of it had to do with the politics and personalities in England and Germany, between Queen Victoria and the opening of World War I.

My only complaint about Castles of Steel was I'd have liked a section at the end which wrapped up the lives of the characters who survived the Great War. You never really get told what happens to Fisher, Jellico, Beatty, Tirpiz, Scheer, Hipper, etc. I guess that's what wikipedia is for. [:)]

Thanks for the info Connfire,I look forward to reading the book,I have ordered a copy and it should be delivered soon,in the mean time I have just completed my version off the Connecticut class Pre-Dreadnought.[8D]

Great White Fleet VERSION BB ILLINOIS[;)]

What do you guys prefer USA ships white or grey?[:)]

Dressed in white I think I would prefer pole masts. Of course, more realistic for a war setting would be the gray.

Hi Connfire,as requested the USA Pensacola class cruiser[:)]



Name: Pensacola class cruiser
Operators: United States Navy
Preceded by: St.Louis-class cruiser
Succeeded by: Northampton-class cruiser
In commission: 1929 - 1947
Completed: 2
Retired: 2
Preserved: 0
General characteristics
Type: Heavy Cruiser
Displacement: 9100 tons (standard)
11512 tons (full)
Length: 585.5 ft (178.5 m)
Beam: 65.0 ft (19.8 m)
Draft: 19.5 ft (5.9 m)
Propulsion: Steam turbines
8 boilers
4 Screws
107000 Horsepower
Speed: 32.5 knots
Complement: 653

Armament:
10 × 8 inch/55 caliber guns (2×2, 2×3)
8 × single 5 inch/38 caliber guns
4 × quad 1.1 inch/75 caliber guns (as built)
24 × 40 mm Bofors guns (1943)
28 × 20 mm Oerlikon cannons (1943)
6 × 21-inch torpedo tubes (removed before 1941)

Armor:
2.5-4 inch belt
1-1.75 inch decks
.75-2.5 inch turrets
.75 inch barbettes
1.25 inch CT

Aircraft carried: 2

Hi Connfire,as requested the USA Pensacola class cruiser

Awesome! Thank you. If a Pacific War began in 1926, and they were still fighting it in the late 20s, I'd think these or a varient of them would have started entering service around that time.

I will do the other ship classes you asked for very soon cheers.[;)]

ORIGINAL: hellfirejet

Hi Connfire,as requested the USA Pensacola class cruiser[:)]

Wow that Pensacola class cruiser looks great Graham [8D]

Well if you like that,then what do you think of this Northampton class.[;)]



Name: Northampton class cruiser
Operators: United States Navy
Preceded by: Pensacola-class cruiser
Succeeded by: Portland-class cruiser (Heavy Cruiser)
Brooklyn-class cruiser (Light Cruiser)
Completed: 6
Lost: 3
Retired: 3
Preserved: 0
General characteristics
Type: Heavy Cruiser
Displacement: 9,050 tons
Length: 600 ft 3 in (182.9 m)
Beam: 66 ft 1 in (20.1 m)
Draft: 16 ft 4 in (5.0 m)
Propulsion: 4-shaft Parsons turbines
8 White-Forster boilers
4 screws
107,000 Horsepower
Speed: 32.5 knots (60 km/h)
Complement: 621
Officers: 55
Enlisted: 566

Armament:
9 × 8 in/55 caliber guns (3×3)
4 × 5 in/25 caliber guns
6 × 21-inch torpedo tubes
24 × 40 mm Bofors guns (4×4)
28 × 20 mm Oerlikon cannons

Armour:
Belt 3" over machinery with 1" deck
3.75" side and 2" deck over magazines
barbettes 1.5"
gunhouses 2.5" face
2" roof
0.75" side and rear

Aircraft carried: 2

Well if you like that,then what do you think of this Northampton class.

I like it a lot! [;)] Thank you!

USA Wickes class destroyers completed.[8D]



Name: Wickes class destroyer
Builders: Various
Operators: United States
United Kingdom
Preceded by: Caldwell class destroyer
Succeeded by: Clemson class destroyer
Built: 1917 - 1921
In commission: 1918 - 1946 (USN)
Completed: 111
Lost: 9 sunk in battle
5 sunk as targets
7 others sunk or destroyed in other ways
Retired: 90 scrapped
Preserved: 0
General characteristics
Type: Destroyer
Displacement: 1,154 tons (normal)
1,247 tons (full load)

Length: 314 ft 4.5 in (95.82 m)
Beam: 30 ft 11.25 in (9.43 m)
Draught: 9 ft (2.74 m)
Propulsion: 4x300 psi (20 atm) unsuperheated Boilers
2 Parsons Turbines
(24,610 horsepower)
Speed: 35.3 Knots

Complement: 100 officers and enlisted

Armament:
4 × 4 inch/50 caliber guns
1 × 3 inch/23 caliber guns
12 × 21 inch torpedo tubes (4×3)

I have been busy doing more ship art for USA,here be the Wyomoing class Dreadnought.[;)]

ORIGINAL: hellfirejet

I have been busy doing more ship art for USA,here be the Wyomoing class Dreadnought.[;)]

Very nice [:)]

USA Dreadnought Wyoming class final version completed[;)]

The never completed USA Dreadnought South Dakota class . (These were all cancelled 1923)[:D]