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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

I think you ought to get on Uncommon Valor's case...it's a great wee game. Indepth enough to keep you busy and not swamp you. It will also give you an idea of how War in the Pacific works.

Seriously - use and be happy with Uncommon Valor, then come back and try one of the other options!

I agree with Judge completely. Uncommon Valor will whet your appetite for WitP, or it will help you understand that you really never will have enough time to play WitP. [;)]

Americans may be startled to pick up a 256-page book about the Pacific War and discover that Pearl Harbor isn't mentioned until page 135. That's a consequence of Ienaga's belief that the war actually began with the Japanese army's 1931 coup in Manchuria, which led inevitably to war with China, which in turn led to the wider war agaisnt the western Allies. Despite Japan's claims about liberating Asians from colonialism, its purpose in going to war was to obtain the raw materials with which to defeat China. That was one reason the Japanese treated the "liberated" peoples so badly--as badly as they treated their white PWs. Part of the blame goes to the Japanese military tradition, in which the officers were an elite and the troops were conscripted from the younger sons of tenant farmers. Brutality was the norm, and the enlisted men who stayed in the army and became sergeants were precisely those who would most brutalize the next batch of recruits. Draftees were called issen gorin--roughly, "penny postcards," because that was the cost and the method of obtaining one. Why husband the life of a soldier when he could be replaced for a penny? Ienaga explains that the enlisted soldiers were the bottom of the food chain, that they had no on upon whom to vent their brutality in return. During WWII, it was fashionable in the U.S. to show General Tojo as the Japanese dictator, making a trio with Germany's Hitler and Italy's Mussolini. But of course that was very far from true, as even American propaganda recognized, since sometimes the emperor Hirohito filled the same role. Ienaga is especially good at explaining this mystery, in which a dictator was imposed by a group of elder statesmen--then deposed when his usefulness was over. Tojo ruled the government and the army, but he never managed to rule the navy--he didn't even learn about the defeat at Midway until a month after four aircraft carriers and a major portion of the navy's fighter planes had gone to the bottom. This is a valuable book, one of only a half-dozen serious studies by Japanese scholars of World War II available in English. We didn't know our enemy in 1941; we hardly know him any better today.
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ORIGINAL: Chuck Norris

I've been eyeing HPS's Naval Campaigns: Guadalcanal for a while. Its between that and UV for my next wargame ...

I have several HPS titles, but I was very disapointed w/its "Canal game; there are very few scenarios as compared w/"Jutland".

I still own UV, which I find more engrossing than most HPS games.

I like HPS Guadalcanal but UV has more replay value. It depends on what you're looking for. Guadalcanal is closer to Carriers at War IMO with CAW being the better game if it was my money. CAW and Guadalcanal are more beer and pretzels and UV a step up. Everyone may not feel that way however. Have fun.