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Money isn't important by the late game: The real thing that can happen late game is suddenly hitting a resource crunch in rare resources. You can be rolling in cash, yet nothing is built because the stuff just doesn't exist anywhere in the galaxy.

ORIGINAL: Fishman

Money isn't important by the late game: The real thing that can happen late game is suddenly hitting a resource crunch in rare resources. You can be rolling in cash, yet nothing is built because the stuff just doesn't exist anywhere in the galaxy.

Never had this happen too me
Remember, all strategic resources are rated at least "common"

ORIGINAL: Fishman

Money isn't important by the late game: The real thing that can happen late game is suddenly hitting a resource crunch in rare resources. You can be rolling in cash, yet nothing is built because the stuff just doesn't exist anywhere in the galaxy.

Fishman, are you implying that resources are finite in this game? I was under the impression that, once you had a colony/mine on some resource-bearing object, you would always have a supply of it. Maybe not enough of it but always *some* of it.

Is that assumption wrong?

Just as a reminder, we know that the result of the economy fixes in 1.0.2 was that the economy is now a bit overboard and 1.0.4 should bring that back under control, though all the rebalancing will only kick in for new games.

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Just as a reminder, we know that the result of the economy fixes in 1.0.2 was that the economy is now a bit overboard and 1.0.4 should bring that back under control, though all the rebalancing will only kick in for new games.

Maybe it's just me still being new to the game, but I'm still having some difficulties with the economy.

I went from an income of ~148k to -3k in just a couple of minutes. It's slowly crept back up, but I have no idea why it tanked like that.

The only thing that happened in that time is I think I colonized one planet. That shouldn't make that drastic of an impact.

I'm running 1.03 and have about 40 - 50 Planets (maybe more).

@ spacecadet did you build any ships by any chance? I am like you, had a great surplus of money, and then tanking. I notice this when I make alot of ships. Also did the AI maybe make alot of civilian ships? Don't forget even though you don't control the civilian ships, I beleive you have to pay for their maintenance costs thou.

ORIGINAL: Davor

@ spacecadet did you build any ships by any chance? I am like you, had a great surplus of money, and then tanking. I notice this when I make alot of ships. Also did the AI maybe make alot of civilian ships? Don't forget even though you don't control the civilian ships, I beleive you have to pay for their maintenance costs thou.

I don't think that was it.
I looked at my empire balance sheet, and for some reason the income was down.

At 3k - 4k maintenance cost (for a Capital ship), I don't think I even have the capacity to add that many extra ships at one go - roughly 150k worth of extra maintenance .

Civilian ships (Private) are maintained by Private enterprise to my understanding, and I don't think (not sure) their (Private) balance sheet took the hit.

Even if for some reason I had a brief Luxury shortage blip, I wouldn't think the impact would be that great.

ORIGINAL: Davor

@ spacecadet did you build any ships by any chance? I am like you, had a great surplus of money, and then tanking. I notice this when I make alot of ships. Also did the AI maybe make alot of civilian ships? Don't forget even though you don't control the civilian ships, I beleive you have to pay for their maintenance costs thou.

Davor, your Private sector pays for the ship cost at your space port (which monies you get) and then pays for maintenance on that ship itself, from its own funds.