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RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:19 am
by Seydlitz69
Where can I find the old ones for HTTR?

RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:32 am
by tukker
Any progress on this tukker?
I'm nearly there.
Where can I find the old ones for HTTR?
I actually had a very hard time finding these myself, got them in a Bit Torrent file of HTTR [X(]
If you send me a mail or PM with your adress, I'll mail them to you.

Pieter

RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:20 pm
by Rebel Yell
Cool.

Playtesters wanted

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:11 pm
by tukker
The good news[:)]: the Epsom scenario is ready. I'm looking for playtesters. If you're interested, just send me a PM with your e-mail adress, and I'll send you the files.

The bad news[:(] : I've somehow managed to overwrite both the Epsom Phase 4 scenario file and its backup. So this one's going to take a bit longer than expected [:@] Please be patient...

Pieter

Epsom Phase 4 ready for testing

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:06 pm
by tukker
It took a bit longer then expected [:o], but the new version of the Epsom Phase 4 scenario is ready for testing. If you're interested in doing so, send me a PM

Pieter

RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:10 pm
by ulisin
ORIGINAL: Rebel Yell

Cool.

very cool

RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:16 pm
by tukker
The "Epsom" scenario can be downloaded from the games depot at www.wargamer.com
"Epsom Phase 4" is coming soon.

Pieter

RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:35 pm
by Seydlitz69
Great, but link is not working.

RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:36 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
ORIGINAL: Seydlitz69

Great, but link is not working.

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RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:38 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
ORIGINAL: tukker

The "Epsom" scenario can be downloaded from the games depot at www.wargamer.com.
"Epsom Phase 4" is coming soon.

Pieter

Tukker, you've got a period after .com in your link.

RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:43 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
ORIGINAL: tukker

The "Epsom" scenario can be downloaded from the games depot at www.wargamer.com.
"Epsom Phase 4" is coming soon.

Pieter

This should get everyone where they want to go:

http://www.wargamer.com/gamesdepot/details.asp?sid=4799

RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:18 pm
by tukker
I've removed the [dot] in the original link, but this one's better. Thanks PoE !

Pieter

RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:53 pm
by Prince of Eckmühl
ORIGINAL: tukker

I've removed the [dot] in the original link, but this one's better. Thanks PoE !

Pieter

NP, glad to be of help.
And thanks for your work on this. It looks excellent, and will no doubt be a lot of fun to play.

Since we're in the modder's forum, though, I have a question for you...

In examining your work in the estab editor, I noticed that you appear to have used the Pz.IV.j that's native to the BftB estabs. I'm looking at doing something from early-mid 1944 and am curious as to how you believe that a Pz.IV.g or Pz.IV.h might differ in terms of estab values from the "J" model? Or are these later series Pz.IV so similar in their essentials as to make any such differentiations unnecessary? Thoughts?

RE: Epsom Scenarios

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:36 am
by tukker
According to the description, the Pz IV Ausf J in the BFTB Estab already also represents late model Ausf G and Ausf H. Like you said, the late model Pz IVs were quite similar, and I don't think the differences matter in terms of gameplay. So I'd go with the Pz IV J without modifications.

Pieter

RE: "Epsom" for BFTB

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:06 am
by tukker
The Epsom Phase 4 scenario can now be downloaded here: http://wargamer.com/gamesdepot/details.asp?sid=4800

Pieter

RE: "Epsom" for BFTB

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:59 am
by FredSanford3
Playing thru as Germans right now- Historically, did the 12th SS just occupy those positions moments before the battle? Dug in/entrenched would make their defense a little more tenable. I'd already played as the British, and I crushed the 12th SS on the opening attack, and was basically waiting around the rest of the scenario picking off the reinforcements as they arrived.

Did you notice that it appears the bocage terrain 'overrides' the minor river and thick woods movement modifiers? At least I think this is what's happening. Motorized units can cross both at about 5% movement. By contrast the stream motorized movement modifier is 1%, so a motorized unit can supposedly cross a wider barrier, quicker. Is this intentional?

Historically, what happened during day 5? It looks like the II SS PzK doesn't get much time on map.

RE: "Epsom" for BFTB

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:19 pm
by tukker
Franklin,

Dug in/entrenched would make their defense a little more tenable.
You're right, 12 SS should be dug in.
Did you notice that it appears the bocage terrain 'overrides' the minor river and thick woods movement modifiers? At least I think this is what's happening. Motorized units can cross both at about 5% movement. By contrast the stream motorized movement modifier is 1%, so a motorized unit can supposedly cross a wider barrier, quicker. Is this intentional?

No, it isn't. I'll have a look at it.
Historically, what happened during day 5? It looks like the II SS PzK doesn't get much time on map.

II SS Pz Korps' attack didn't manage to cut off VIII Corps south of the river Odon, nor to retake Cheux- but it did worry the British so much that they pulled back from Hill 112, thus in effect ending chance of succes of Operation Epsom.

Pieter

RE: "Epsom" for BFTB

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:28 pm
by FredSanford3
II SS Pz Korps' attack didn't manage to cut off VIII Corps south of the river Odon, nor to retake Cheux- but it did worry the British so much that they pulled back from Hill 112, thus in effect ending chance of succes of Operation Epsom.

Pieter
What do you think of extending the scenario by a day to let them fight it out in case the on-map situation differs from the historical?

RE: "Epsom" for BFTB

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:30 am
by tukker
Historically, II Pz Korps had to launch their attack before they were ready. The way the scenario is set up now, the Axis player has to do the same: launch the counterattack straightaway.  I'll have another look at the scenario, and think about extending it. In the meantime: feel free to open the ScenMaker and extend the scenario. [:)]  You could even upload the extended version so we can choose.

Pieter

RE: "Epsom" for BFTB

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:51 am
by FredSanford3
Hmm, if you're ok with it I may do so; but I didn't want to modify your scenario and have multiple versions floating around (I've dealt with that headache too many times in real life).