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RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 6:19 pm
by Locarnus
after i read about it here somewhere now i always miss the wormholes from the other 4Xs when someone mentions black holes [:(]
RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:58 pm
by taltamir
ORIGINAL: Astorax
Taltamir, there has to be some radiant energy for the collectors to, well, collect. Thats why you get less energy collected the further out from a sun you are in a system. Go to a gas field with no star or anything and just idle - no energy collection because there is nothing to collect. Contrariwise, you can collect energy at black holes, even though it has no sun, because it does radiate energy (look at description of it).
what exactly is this a REPLY to? where did I say anything to the contrary of what you are saying right now?
RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:59 pm
by Shark7
ORIGINAL: taltamir
ORIGINAL: Astorax
Taltamir, there has to be some radiant energy for the collectors to, well, collect. Thats why you get less energy collected the further out from a sun you are in a system. Go to a gas field with no star or anything and just idle - no energy collection because there is nothing to collect. Contrariwise, you can collect energy at black holes, even though it has no sun, because it does radiate energy (look at description of it).
what exactly is this a REPLY to? where did I say anything to the contrary of what you are saying right now?
Although, I would say that the distance within a solar system does not matter AFAIK, if it is in the solar system, it collects energy.
I guess the real question is: Does anyone just park their ships our in deep space?
RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 8:02 pm
by Locarnus
I usually search for an empty star system to park what I need to [/align]
RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:06 pm
by Astorax
Taltamir, look at the last line of post #14 in this thread. You state that, "Also, I think collectors work anywhere, as long as you are sitting still they work, even without a sun."
That is untrue and thats what I was replying to. If you are somewhere there happens to be radiant energy without a sun, i.e.- blackhole, etc, then yes, energy collectors will work without a sun present but park in deep space somewheres and idle and check your fuel consumption.
Also, relax brother, lol.
RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:33 pm
by taltamir
ORIGINAL: Astorax
Taltamir, look at the last line of post #14 in this thread. You state that, "Also, I think collectors work anywhere, as long as you are sitting still they work, even without a sun."
That is untrue and thats what I was replying to. If you are somewhere there happens to be radiant energy without a sun, i.e.- blackhole, etc, then yes, energy collectors will work without a sun present but park in deep space somewheres and idle and check your fuel consumption.
Also, relax brother, lol.
yea, almost as soon as I posted it I doubted it, so I went and tested it and then edited that little tidbit out... i am surprised you saw the old version of that post though since I edited it a while ago.
RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:05 pm
by Astorax
You may have edited it but not that part - its still there.
RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:59 pm
by taltamir
ORIGINAL: Astorax
You may have edited it but not that part - its still there.
weird... ok, now its definitely gone.
RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:01 pm
by Astorax
Alas, its still there, mate. Heh, no worries, its all cleared up in any case.
RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:17 pm
by the1sean
ORIGINAL: taltamir
And then they send whiny messages about your ships in their territory.
Yea, its quite hilarious that they tell me to remove the ships from their systems... so I look and what do I see? my ships are REFUELING in their systems...
I have made a bug report about that and asked for there to be an exception for auto-refuel function, and a grace period as well.
It would also be nice if there were "right of passage" treaties like in the Civilization series, like a step below "alliance" where you just allow each other refueling and territorial passage rights, but arent obligated to defend each other in wartime...
RE: Is this complex strat possible in the game?
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:33 am
by taltamir
ORIGINAL: the1sean
ORIGINAL: taltamir
And then they send whiny messages about your ships in their territory.
Yea, its quite hilarious that they tell me to remove the ships from their systems... so I look and what do I see? my ships are REFUELING in their systems...
I have made a bug report about that and asked for there to be an exception for auto-refuel function, and a grace period as well.
It would also be nice if there were "right of passage" treaties like in the Civilization series, like a step below "alliance" where you just allow each other refueling and territorial passage rights, but arent obligated to defend each other in wartime...
The defensive pact counts as one I think... Also, you shouldn't need a right of passage treaty for that. As long as you are not hostile to each other, or at least have a non-aggression pack, I see no reason why this would be a problem.