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Hands down cc2 was the best of the series

I’m in……………….

I could never understand why the changed taht part of the game in CC3 onwards...CC2 had the best method for the campaign and I wish they had developed it rather than changed it totally.

Is it just me or does it look more like CC5 than CC2 in the screenshots?

where can i see it?

The original CC2 scenarios and campaign game was the best of the bunch IMO but some much needed tuning to go with the new version like changing weapons stats AND ammo loadout, especially mortar ammo is required.
It can be done.

Look at some of the " Real" mods out there based on GJS. A big selling point would be an easy and _ well documented_ editor that enables players to do those minor changes in the entire series.

That alone I would pay BFTB prices for.

The Atomic boys had great talent but poor judgement about what their audience wanted or liked......and way to much Eastern Front stuff IMO

ORIGINAL: wodin

I could never understand why the changed taht part of the game in CC3 onwards...CC2 had the best method for the campaign and I wish they had developed it rather than changed it totally.

The Atomic boys had great talent but poor judgement about what their audience wanted or liked......and way to much Eastern Front stuff IMO

Correct me if I'm wrong but Atomic released only one eastern Front game in the Close Combat series.

ORIGINAL: Andrew Williams

The Atomic boys had great talent but poor judgement about what their audience wanted or liked......and way to much Eastern Front stuff IMO

Correct me if I'm wrong but Atomic released only one eastern Front game in the Close Combat series.

Nope you are 100% right. I wish they had more Eastern Front stuff!

ORIGINAL: Sarge

Hands down cc2 was the best of the series

I’m in……………….

ditto.[8D]

ORIGINAL: Prince of Eckmühl

ORIGINAL: Sarge

Hands down cc2 was the best of the series

I’m in……………….

ditto.[8D]

+1

I have been hoping/waiting for a remake of CC2 for years. As others already said the campaign system and force system is superior (imo) to any other game in the series.

I would also love some more games using the same system, but I realize it only works for campaigns that are similar in the way they can be divided naturally into different areas to divide resources to.

pellen,

Why don't you turn your hand to PC wargame design? I like the look of your WW1 game but with no one to play against it would just sit on the shelf...

There is a VASSAL module for my game hopefully out soon. I tested it this weekend and it was really fun, almost like sitting at the same table face to fe. And, yes, I have tried to hobby develop a number of pc wargames, they just don't ever get finished...

I don't want to hijack this thread though. The original subject is much too good for that. [8D]

Playing Vassal is a good experience.  But rules interpretaion, book keeping, combat resolution is still a chore depending on the game.

By the way, screenshots does not look like a remake of CC2.
It looks as if CC4/5 was modded to depict Operation Market Garden.
So our favorite campaign system might be replaced with a new one.

ORIGINAL: jomni
So our favorite campaign system might be replaced with a bright new shiny one with more bells and whistles. [:D]

[;)]

insted say if matrix was half smart and did the russian front with BGs say with pick your campain AG north, center or south...air strikes...arty buy your own inplacements..bunker types ..fox holes and camouflarg....20 onscreen units and be able to have troops enter the battle when its ongoing...then you would be moving close combat forward so it does not die on the vine.(as much as i love cc2 the remakes are wearing thin)i first start playing close combat with the cc1 demo.

Tigercub!

Fix the "crawl of death"!
No experience with WAR and TLD remakes but I think they're still there.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

ORIGINAL: jomni

Playing Vassal is a good experience.  But rules interpretaion, book keeping, combat resolution is still a chore depending on the game.

By the way, screenshots does not look like a remake of CC2.
It looks as if CC4/5 was modded to depict Operation Market Garden.
So our favorite campaign system might be replaced with a new one.

erm...link?

screens i'm talking about is nothing new (from the newsletter)
http://www.matrixgames.com/newsletter/june2010.html

Unfortunately I must say that if the new game does not come with the old cc2 campaign system I am not likely to buy it. While I do find Market Garden more interesting as a game subject than the other Close Combat campaigns, it is the campaign system I want to see more of, not Arnhem.