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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 8:40 pm
by David Heath
Hi Montanan

Just for the record I have no problem with people having problems or asking questions. I will let this forum and our other forums be my proof of that. What I didn't like was the smartass comment that he has to pray for a patch. Making it automaticly sound like there is a bug and not that he did not understand something and I felt the general tone of the email was rude.

If he had just stated I am having this problem can anyone help I am sure someone would have been happy to answer the question. Respect is a two way street. If you read this forum or other forums you will see a lot of posts by us with details and helpful answers.

The bottom line if you have a problem or a question we are here to help and how you ask can make a difference sometimes in the reply.

David

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 8:47 pm
by Montanan
Hi Dave. Apparently i came in on the tail end of the conversations.

I appreciate you and your companies efforts in providing wargames to the public.

You are rare company and i agree, you also deserve to be communicated with respect.

thanks

Re: Attitude needs changed

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2002 10:23 pm
by dgaad
Originally posted by Montanan
As someone who reads these message boards so my questions can be answered, i was taken aback by David Heaths Matrix Staff smart mouth comment about "RTFM".

I dont have time for crap and rude game companies. Ive been playing wargames/strategy since the 70's.

I spent more on Uncommon Valor than any game in rescent years. Trying to give wargames another chance with UV. And to read where some staffer replies to an honest question with slang is unprofessional, stains 2x3 software and reflects poorly on the maturity level of Matrix.

I read the UV manual pdf, no printed manual for a $50+s/h wargame?? c'mon... ....and i certainly dont have the manual memorized. As someone who has 60 hour week job, wife , and 3 kids, i had the same question as this Kamersky guy who started this thread did.

Please refrain from the smart mouth replies and show a lil patience and professionalism with your customers. And yes i realize questions to matrix/companies can often be asked in a more polite/respectful manner.

However, If forums are for "EXperts ONLY", consider posting them as such.

In any event, the game is still new for many of us, a simple "refer to page # in the PDF" is all that was needed.

Montanan
Montanan & others :

Some things you might not be aware of, which is fine.

1. I've been playing wargames since the 70s too ;)

2. I've spent money on computer "wargame" by other companies and in fact had to pray for a patch that never came, dealt with really dumb implementations, complete illogic, total misunderstandings of basic things like logistics, combat, etc.

3. So over the years I got fed up too, and lowered my expectations into the negative realm.

4. Matrix is not like the other companies. Grigsby understands war and knows how to design, the company takes feedback, even guff, very well, turnaround on implementation is relatively good, etc etc.

5. All this goodness comes as a shock to me after so many years of this community, which in large measure STARTED the computer gaming industry, being ignored.

6. So, give Matrix another chance. Believe me, and you know this, you would in fact be doing *yourself* a disservice if you did not.

7. Like everyone, Matrix is composed of humans. Humans generally get tired of comments that are accusing them of being and doing what they are not and have not done.

8. Kerensky himself said he READ the manual about transport loading and simply forgot about it because he doesn't agree with the sequence in the implementation. Yet he still had the gall to come on here and say its a bug and its stupid, etc.

9. Not only that, this was like the FOURTH thread on this issue, each one of them started by people who either don't understand wargames at all, don't understand naval processes at all, didn't read the manual, etc.

10. How would you have reacted ;) I think Matrix gets a medal for not becoming frothy-mouth rabid.

11. Anyway, you are among brothers here, so brothers sometimes throw snot balls at each other. No big.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2002 1:51 pm
by daniel123
I wish to remove a combat unit from a base. The number of AP's is more than enough. The problem I don't want them to pickup and supplies. How do I let the combat unit load and refuse the supplies??