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Tony, we seem to be miscommunicating.  You're talking one thing and I'm talking another.  So just to be clear.

Owners of HCE or ANW should continue to receive free updates for products we bought regardless of Ultimate.  It doesn't matter if MG comes out with Ultimate we should still get those updates.  Ultimate is for those who want additional Harpoon games or for new customers.  Many of us already purchased and should not have updates cut off for those products.  That's an unspoken agreement in the industry and it's spelled out in writing in the HCE manual.

Again, it would be nice for Erik or somebody from MG to post and clarify.

If you succeed trying to make that argument with Matrix I'll be looking forward to 10s of thousands of dollars back from Microsoft when you topple them too [&o]

I think Erik was pretty clear in the first post; the only ambiguity I read is whether Matrix plans on patching existing users to the Ultimate level (feasible for HCE) or one patch level beyond (gets hairy as codebases diverge and I'm a cranky volunteer with limited time so...). I'm not sure he has reason to jump in until pricing has been finalized.

Any update on the expected release date? I can't wait for Ultimate.My dad and I had a copy of the original Mac version on 3.5 Disk (remember those?!?), and a copy of Harpoon II that came in a bundle. We had to make do with GIUK in Harpoon I and Global Conflicts I for Harpoon II. The reason why I bring this up is because my dad's birthday is the 22nd. Any chance it will be out by then? Any chance we could pre-order soon? Also, any idea how much this beast is going to cost?

It won't be out by the 22nd; past that I have no idea.

I think this Ultimate Package is a scheme to make people who like HCE (like me) to finally move to the next generation ANW.  Honestly, I have mixed feelings.  I don't want to move to ANW because of the all problems it has and I just want continued patches for HCE.  But if ANW is finally fixed... then maybe I'll like it. So the price better be good!