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RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:52 pm
by RD Oddball
What map was it on Judge Dredd? Specific location on the map would help me too. Thanks!
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:52 pm
by Andrew Williams
screenshot of the area?
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:55 pm
by RD Oddball
Thought it was implied by the "specific area" but perhaps not. [:)]
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:07 pm
by JudgeDredd
It was the Best scenario
My troops are yellow and had LOS to the yellow arrow....past that (the other wall) I had a red arrow so couldn't even area fire
The german troops are the blue line and had LoS and LoF (effective) to my troops.
Bear in mins also my troops are in woods and behind a wall and I could not fire at the German AI but they were quite effective in destroying my unit.
My unit (rifle unit) was moving at the time, came under fire and went to ground, crawling towards the wall. When they got there, I could not fire, even though the German unit was spotted (by which unit I don't know...I presume the unit they were firing at as I had very few troops even close to the area) but I continued to take casualties from the german AI unit (which kept appearing and disappearing from view...though even when they disappeared from view, I could still see the firing lines coming from the German troops)
I'm going to drop it now if you don't mind. I'd raher get on and enjoy the game and if I get too mired into this, then it'll likely affect my enjoyment of it. So I'm calling it a closed case from here and it's over to you guys to determine if there's an issue or not.
Good luck
Billy

RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:10 pm
by JudgeDredd
By the way, my other troops displacements were something like this

RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:15 pm
by RD Oddball
Okay thanks Judge Dredd. Initially I was thinking it was a map coding issue but it doesn't look like it or sound like it. Will make a report. Thanks for passing this along.
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:15 pm
by Andrew Williams
Thanks... that's plenty to work with
have fun and don't feel obligated but any constructive feedback is more than useful
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:28 pm
by JudgeDredd
No...I really don't mind providing feedback. I don't want to take away from the enjoyment of the game...as it is great.
I just wanted to move on from this issue really. I think if I get bogged down in any one particular issue, then my enjoyment would be affected for sure.
To be fair, it could've been alot clearer had I been able to post a screenshot quicker [8D]
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:18 am
by Hard Sarge
okay, using Judges picture
here is what I complained about
see the circle, troops sneaking get slaughtered by German troops behind wall, LOF is the white line, that is 3 walls and 2 hedges they spotted and shoot at (and Killed) targets though
while the Black lines are where two of my Squads were placed and couldn't fire back, as the walls were in the way
one of them, is almost right in line with the path the German bullets were using
(another line, do you think you could set the game up, so a Crew weapon would be set up, when it is placed ?, really a pain to have a MG in Ambush, for 10 minutes, finally see a target and then have to wait for the MG to be set up ? what has it been doing all of this time ??)

RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:09 am
by philjat
Hi
I agree whith the "hard sarge" picture, it's the same for me.
Phil
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:27 pm
by RD Oddball
It's important to check the elevation values between the two points. Not suggesting for sure that's what you were experiencing but that might explain why there's LOS between those two points.
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:33 pm
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: RD_Oddball
It's important to check the elevation values between the two points. Not suggesting for sure that's what you were experiencing but that might explain why there's LOS between those two points.
oh come on
being higher don't mean you can shoot and the other guy can't, if his LOS/LOF isn't blocked then your's is not either, you may have a HARDer shot, but you do have a shot
these guys are all blocked by the 2nd wall in there path, while the AI is firing though 3 walls and 2 hedges
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:34 pm
by Hard Sarge
It's important to check the elevation values between the two points. Not suggesting for sure that's what you were experiencing but that might explain why there's LOS between those two points.
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and that is what we are saying, there would be LOS between the two points, not a one way view, the AI is seeing and firing though walls while the player can not
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:23 pm
by RD Oddball
ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge
oh come on
being higher don't mean you can shoot and the other guy can't,
OOPS! Sorry I missed that part of your post. My apologies for misunderstanding. When we heard the first reports of being able to shoot one direction but not the other we started looking at it. Didn't realize this was a continuation of that same exact issue.
*EDIT* in reply to your second post. Yep we totally agreed when it was first reported.
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:39 pm
by Hard Sarge
no hassle
just trying to clear it up
hope what we have said will make it easier to find, or explain what is going on
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:19 pm
by RD Oddball
Yes and thank you for the extra info!
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:45 pm
by Andrew Williams
It's being looked at...
I just tried the best battle and got LOS to those areas, my teams were behind the wall as indicated by judge

RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:59 pm
by TAIL GUNNER
It often seems like you and Oddball have a different build than us common folk...
The version I'm showing is 5.60.00
same as yours?
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:28 am
by Andrew Williams
yep, same... unless someones done the switharoo on me.
RE: I need to put this out there...
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:16 am
by RD Oddball
ORIGINAL: Juggalo
It often seems like you and Oddball have a different build than us common folk...
The version I'm showing is 5.60.00
same as yours?
Your build is exactly the same as mine. I downloaded the digital version to do testing on. it's the only way to get accurate results.