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RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:58 pm
by Hard Sarge
I got 3 of the 7 so far (of course the 3 that are close to the start line
and now to see how the Russian Reacts (really, not much they can do, but...)
got my pocket, and the Russian has backed off Minsk is open for the kill, but the last 3 may be a issue, if he has any troops left over for that line (odds are, most of those will be depleted from the first turn attacks, those are the left overs and got aways, but you never know until you hit them)
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:04 pm
by Hard Sarge
hassle now, is most of the important fighting is going to be left to the Armor, the Inf will never close the gap fast enough to help out (if I had enough AP, I could make a couple of my Inf into Motorized troops, to get them to move to the front (that can't fight or enter enemy ZOC though)
(normal tactics when you can, you use Inf to make a breakthough, you slip your Armor into the gap, make a pocket, then let the Inf mop up, your Armor then moves forward, and if they can't make another pocket, wait for the Inf to start getting close again, kind of HARD when your on a time limit though)
okay this is a closer view of what going on from the south
got some armor at the start of the Marsh, that may be a mistake
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:05 pm
by Hard Sarge
the OOB numbers at the start of turn 2, I see the Russian got some air from his stockpiles !!
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:07 pm
by Hard Sarge
he also still has 2000 tanks !
maybe I can change that
hmm VP screen, those 3 in the back are making the battle closer then it looked like !
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:10 pm
by Hard Sarge
we have some new info on the event page, and also a button on the map veiw to get to it !
we also got some goodies on the Commanders Docs (but I not really got a chance to look it over, work with it yet, to have a good idea on what to say about it, other then it is sweet)
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:14 pm
by Hard Sarge
Nice Pocket, this is where you do your damage
didn't think you wanted a step by step account of each battle of the mop up
but I found the Russian tanks !
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:16 pm
by Hard Sarge
and the losses from the pocket, good numbers
(don't look at the turn one, that is part of the warts yet)
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:21 pm
by Hard Sarge
the Russian left a strong force in Minsk, but no flankers, Minsk falls, but had to use my Armor to take it
(kind of too important to leave alone, but may of been better, to bypass it, and let my Inf try for it on turn 3, but if they fail, that is a total lost battle, a toss up)
got some more pockets, got into position to have a chance for the last 3 VH's
looks good ?
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:22 pm
by Hard Sarge
I just wasn't able to make that last hex for the next pocket, that will come back to haunt me
(wasn't counting on that being a major river down there)
the VP end of turn 2 (but the Russian will get another 80 points from the cities it still has, so it is closer then it looks
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:26 pm
by Hard Sarge
OOB numbers at the end of turn 2, I know where 200-250 of those tanks are, they in my pockets, it is the others, but 300 tanks are not a issue (unless you are the one facing them !)
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:32 pm
by Hard Sarge
oh man, I lost my last turn snaps !!!
ah man
well, a Armor and Mot Div took Vitebsk
was able to do a rush and take Zhlobin
Mogilev held, 7 attacks by 7 Divs couldn't break it
(and yes, if I would of by passed Minsk and left it for the Inf, I would been in better shape for a stand up fight at Mogilev (to be honest, I was worried about Vitebsk, I thought I could take Mog)
clean out the pockets, formed another one (that one don't matter, but, habit is habit)
so, end the turn with 6 of 7 VH's
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:37 pm
by Hard Sarge
and now it is sit back and see what happens
well, it is all over but the shouting
still a major win, but could of been better !
two minor mistakes gave the Russian more points then they should of gotten !, but at the time, it looked like the right thing to do
(hassle with a small map, short time, in real game, I wouldn't of even bothered with Mog, I would of cut it off, and bypassed it, and left it for my Inf following up)
but, will say, it is a fun little battle, and as a trainer, it gets the idea across
hope it was helpful
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:18 pm
by Tiger73
Sarge,
That was one excellent AAR!
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:22 pm
by ComradeP
Thanks for the AAR.
There are a number of errors in the Logistics Phase Event log screen:
"been" should be "has been/have been" or "was/were"
"Fuel refinaries" should be fuel refineries.
"Consumed by vehicles production" should be consumed by vehicle production.
Oil probably isn't consumed by oil production, but by fuel production.
"Aircraft factroties" should be aircraft factories.
"aircarft production" should be aircraft production.
"aicraft factory locations" should be aircraft factory locations.
Whatever "ground types" are, it would make more sense to make it singular instead of plural, so ground type instead of ground types.
"Ground types prodyction" should be ground type (or types) production.
"form *number* manpower centers" should be "from *number* manpower center.
I was under the impression that there was only a motor pool, not a motor pool and a logistics vehicle pool, if so it might make sense to change the "trucks were repaired and returned to the logistics pool" to trucks were repaired and returned to the motor pool.
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:43 pm
by SGHunt
Thanks - really helpful to see all the Air stuff, especially
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RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:54 pm
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: ComradeP
Thanks for the AAR.
There are a number of errors in the Logistics Phase Event log screen:
"been" should be "has been/have been" or "was/were"
"Fuel refinaries" should be fuel refineries.
"Consumed by vehicles production" should be consumed by vehicle production.
Oil probably isn't consumed by oil production, but by fuel production.
"Aircraft factroties" should be aircraft factories.
"aircarft production" should be aircraft production.
"aicraft factory locations" should be aircraft factory locations.
Whatever "ground types" are, it would make more sense to make it singular instead of plural, so ground type instead of ground types.
"Ground types prodyction" should be ground type (or types) production.
"form *number* manpower centers" should be "from *number* manpower center.
I was under the impression that there was only a motor pool, not a motor pool and a logistics vehicle pool, if so it might make sense to change the "trucks were repaired and returned to the logistics pool" to trucks were repaired and returned to the motor pool.
LOL, makes it look like I was the one writing it, think he was in a hurry so they could let us have it, will ask for some corrections
RE: Road to Minsk AAR
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:14 am
by Helpless
makes it look like I was the one writing it, think he was in a hurry so they could let us have it, will ask for some corrections
Yes these were troubleshooting message for me. Not sure they will be there at all.