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The Front Page Sports Football series from Sierra, to me, was the best Football game.
Very good playcalling and play designing options.
Too bad they stopped time ago to devloping them....

I played the board game of Strat-o-matic. I enjoyed that many years ago. Looking at the price of 39 dollars is not bad. Included are all the teams from 2012

It appears a new version of Front Office Football may be released late this year or early next year. I really liked FOF and played it a lot for several years. Here is their web site, and there is also discussion of the new version on a couple of web forums. http://www.solecismic.com/index.php

Strat-o-matic. Four of us once had a strat-o-matic league and would meet weekly and play a four-game series in our four-team league. Eventually we gave up on it, but it was fun.

Statis-Pro Football I played a lot, and their baseball game. I think Avalon Hill published it. Kind of like the Strat-o-matic games.

Add this game to the ones in devlopements :
Grey Dog Software : Bowl Bound Pro Football : http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/sh ... p?t=516431

ORIGINAL: Max 86

ORIGINAL: oldbaldwargamer

Front Office Football for sure. Spreadsheetish but a great, very deep, football game.

Very true. Just no fun to look at. I played this one the most and it became too bland and tedious after awhile. I think it would be ideal for the engine of a game that drives some sort of visual component. It seems that these games all lack graphics and the one football game that has the graphics is so arcade like that it produces outrageous states which is a major buzz kill.

I see this thread has over 25000 views in 3 years and that tells me there is a demand for this type of game but we haven't seen the Holy Grail game yet.

I'm still trying to decide which one to get. Can there be one that has depth and fun to look at?

ORIGINAL: Grim.Reaper

Here are a few you could try. Personally, out of these I enjoy ActionPC Football the best. Most of these focus on strategy, versus graphics and are more text based.

ActionPC Football - Season Replay
http://www.dksports.com/

Second and Ten - Season Replay
http://www.secondandten.com/

Football Mogul - Career Mode, Scaled Down Version of Front Office Football
http://www.sportsmogul.com/

Professional Football Simulator - Not sure how to describe this one, one of the newer ones
http://www.barcodegames.com/

Strat-o-matic football - Popular, but I haven't played it
http://www.strat-o-matic.com/

One of the best for it's time and also a baseball great game is Front Page Sports Football by Sierra. The baseball game is to die for. Great graphics and a great stat game as well. Too bad it doesn't work on modern day computers without a lot of work and effort getting a ton of patches and mods to make it work. Too much for me. I'll just dream about the great games of the past.

I haven't really seen any that gets me excited. It seems too big of a task for developers these days. Plus the NFL licensing is pretty strict too so that doesn't help.

ORIGINAL: Zap

ORIGINAL: Max 86

ORIGINAL: oldbaldwargamer

Front Office Football for sure. Spreadsheetish but a great, very deep, football game.

Very true. Just no fun to look at. I played this one the most and it became too bland and tedious after awhile. I think it would be ideal for the engine of a game that drives some sort of visual component. It seems that these games all lack graphics and the one football game that has the graphics is so arcade like that it produces outrageous states which is a major buzz kill.

I see this thread has over 25000 views in 3 years and that tells me there is a demand for this type of game but we haven't seen the Holy Grail game yet.

I'm still trying to decide which one to get. Can there be one that has depth and fun to look at?

OOTP seems to have in development a NFL football game for Spring/ Summer 2017. If it could only reach the level of its baseball game. Because we sorely need a computer game with some graphics on field run of plays with the sophistication management.

Great thread...nice to see all the American Football gamers! [:)]

Last one I had was Madden 08.

But got a PlayStation 3 now just for football and fighting games. (Of course, they came out with the PS4 soon after......)

Professional Football Simulator - Not sure how to describe this one, one of the newer ones http://www.barcodegames.com/

This game has changed names. It is now called DDS:Pro Football 2016(Draft Day Sports) There is a demo. Three companies merged it is now Barcode games..

Action PC Football and Strat-O-Matic seem to be similar. Based on stats of real players previous play. You have 24 teams. Each game offers new data every year (you have to pay for the new year data). Action PC Football though seems more detailed with fatigue, and coach and some management capabilities. Strat-O-Matic is more coach level.

ORIGINAL: Zap

OOTP seems to have in development a NFL football game for Spring/ Summer 2017. If it could only reach the level of its baseball game. Because we sorely need a computer game with some graphics on field run of plays with the sophistication management.

Agreed...the original developer had health issues so glad to see they found a replacement to carry the game forward. Hopefully the original developer has a chance to participate again at some point, but of course his health is far more important.

ORIGINAL: Zap

Professional Football Simulator - Not sure how to describe this one, one of the newer ones http://www.barcodegames.com/

This game has changed names. It is now called DDS:Pro Football 2016(Draft Day Sports) There is a demo. Three companies merged it is now Barcode games..

Different company and different colors, but largely still a multi player focused game with a lot of room to grow to be a good single player experience.

ORIGINAL: Zap

Action PC Football and Strat-O-Matic seem to be similar. Based on stats of real players previous play. You have 24 teams. Each game offers new data every year (you have to pay for the new year data). Action PC Football though seems more detailed with fatigue, and coach and some management capabilities. Strat-O-Matic is more coach level.

Not sure about that....from my experience, the coaching experience is far more detailed with ActionPC than Strat, both end up with fairly reasonable stats. Strat is an open engine based on card and dice, while APC more of a closed engine which takes a lot of factors into consideration. Pricing and support is typically far better with APC, but if you have the money, both of them can be a good time.

ORIGINAL: Grim.Reaper

ORIGINAL: Zap

Action PC Football and Strat-O-Matic seem to be similar. Based on stats of real players previous play. You have 24 teams. Each game offers new data every year (you have to pay for the new year data). Action PC Football though seems more detailed with fatigue, and coach and some management capabilities. Strat-O-Matic is more coach level.

Not sure about that....from my experience, the coaching experience is far more detailed with ActionPC than Strat, both end up with fairly reasonable stats. Strat is an open engine based on card and dice, while APC more of a closed engine which takes a lot of factors into consideration. Pricing and support is typically far better with APC, but if you have the money, both of them can be a good time.

Actually what I was trying to say that I favored Action PC Football for the very reason you mentioned. I like the idea of using the Stats for results as opposed to dice roll.

ORIGINAL: Grim.Reaper

ORIGINAL: Zap

Action PC Football and Strat-O-Matic seem to be similar. Based on stats of real players previous play. You have 24 teams. Each game offers new data every year (you have to pay for the new year data). Action PC Football though seems more detailed with fatigue, and coach and some management capabilities. Strat-O-Matic is more coach level.

Not sure about that....from my experience, the coaching experience is far more detailed with ActionPC than Strat, both end up with fairly reasonable stats. Strat is an open engine based on card and dice, while APC more of a closed engine which takes a lot of factors into consideration. Pricing and support is typically far better with APC, but if you have the money, both of them can be a good time.

Again I did not explain myself well. But I agree with the coaching level being more involved with APF. It is the one I'm inclined to purchase, even though I've played strat-o matic and like it.

Do you agree that OOTP will probably do a good job with their proposed football(NFL) game?

I love some football and since my college won the college NC, woohoo!!!!

ORIGINAL: Zap

ORIGINAL: Grim.Reaper

ORIGINAL: Zap

Action PC Football and Strat-O-Matic seem to be similar. Based on stats of real players previous play. You have 24 teams. Each game offers new data every year (you have to pay for the new year data). Action PC Football though seems more detailed with fatigue, and coach and some management capabilities. Strat-O-Matic is more coach level.

Not sure about that....from my experience, the coaching experience is far more detailed with ActionPC than Strat, both end up with fairly reasonable stats. Strat is an open engine based on card and dice, while APC more of a closed engine which takes a lot of factors into consideration. Pricing and support is typically far better with APC, but if you have the money, both of them can be a good time.

Again I did not explain myself well. But I agree with the coaching level being more involved with APF. It is the one I'm inclined to purchase, even though I've played strat-o matic and like it.

Do you agree that OOTP will probably do a good job with their proposed football(NFL) game?

I hope so, but a little concerned they had to switch developers...ultimately I think and hope it will be a good game, but may take a couple of versions just like their Hockey game.

I've been without an NFL Football game far too long so I purchased Action PC Football