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ORIGINAL: War History

Why? Do you have a stake in the company?

No - I really can't imagine investing in a computer war game publisher to be very wise ;-D

I'm just seeing a guy who's registered 5 months ago, has a dozen posts, and is complaining about Matrix' support etc. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but will note that, of the games I've bought from their partners (witp, witp ae, HTTR, COTA, WBTS, Flashpoint Germany), I've never had much anything but prompt responses from either the game maker or their desgnated spokesmodel on the forums. There are a lot of cranky old geezers in the WitP forums, but generally things are pretty pleasant.

I've seen a few people get banned over the years, and some who have been rude and arrogant yet not gotten any discipline. Frankly I could give a s**t. It's like the TV - you don't like what you're watching, there's always another channel. I've reviewed your posts and really don't see anything wrong with your comments or the responses to them. I don't see the attitude problem you described.

Matrix is what it is - a publisher, and I really think it's as much the game creator's responsibility as anyone else's to provide support. To repeat what I was saying before, I've had problems ranging from CTD's (COTA IIRC) to no startup (WItpAE) and have not had any instances of my problems being ignored.

In short, I'm still unclear what the heck has upset you.

ORIGINAL: Razz

I have never seen convoys being deleted automatically.

I think your pipe dreaming from that stuff your smoking.

Can we get back to some kind words instead of what is being said. I believe Schwary was referring to any supply sent to another port if it is allied will be cancelled if that port is so called well supplied, the convoy will then have ceased to exist or deleted whatever. A great improvement in this game would to let all convoys go through subject to being destroyed or partially destroyed and also allow the player to select his or her own convoy route, that would be a lot better then some of the routes now that go right into the lions den.

Bo

Shouldn't an Aussie MSS act like one to the allied US Troops?  Hard to tell from the language in the manual.  It sounds like it could be that Aussie troops get a free nite on the town in Los Angeles, but US troops don't in Sydney.  Which would be wrong if that's the way it works.  Maybe its just because it what I hoped it would say, but the easiest would be to have the MSS of any ally work for any other nation in the alliance.

Or any city for that matter.  If US troops are a few hexes from an Aussie city, then they should be supplied just like they were an Aussie unit.

Just watched the Pacific mini series.  The Marines were starving in a lot of places.  Melbourne wasn't one of them.  The Marines found themselves in a country where all the men were in Africa or Europe fighting for the Brits.  So, they found a nation of lonely young women and were welcomed with open arms and open doors into their homes.  Definitely didn't look to be starving for food or other attention to me. 

I'd check the map, but the game is such a huge resource hog that I can't type here unless I shut the game down.  Very slow   o   n   e          c       h       a       r         a        t              a            t       i      m     e.

Probably shouldn't mention that.  Some other loudmouth out here will now attack me for trying to play a game on anything that isn't as good as their super-gaming computer.  Oh well. That's the Matrix forums.

The bit about making the code check for the supply source that would deliver the most supply to a unit instead of checking for the closest in AP points sounds like very wise advice.

Generally, all Matrix games force customers to come to these forums to learn the games.  Generally, the small developers who work with Matrix don't write decent manuals.  So, you have to come to these forums to get the details about the game.  I've been playing the demo for an hour, read through the manual, and I'm already out here looking for details that aren't mention and are thus a mystery to me right now.

Unfortunately, its long been the case that if you come to these forums, you run into some loud mouth jerk who jumps all over people who dare to ask a question.

I rarely buy Matrix games.  Just trying the demo of this one.  I'd like to find a strategic/operational game on the pacific that doesn't have the bad UI and massive overkill of details that WITP always died from.  But these forums are one of several reasons I rarely buy the games.  That and the fact that Matrix publishes a great deal of over-priced, buggy, POS games.  Don't know if this is one or not.  Do have to remember that the developers are different from Matrix game to Matrix game.  I've regretted an awful lot of purchases from Matrix over the years.  Found some good games as well.  So, I buy rarely, and very, very carefully from here.

People like Razz aren't helping that with their massive doses of attitude towards anyone who comes here trying to ask a question.

Oh well, I'm gone from here.  Of course, with my questions about the game unanswered.  Which probably means that it won't ever be more than an uninstalled demo for me.

You guys are funny. Check Bo's posts.

Every post is negative and says the game is broken, when it isn't.

Perhaps if he asked for help it would be different.

Plus he doesn't understand your answers and can't explain his problems.

Just read his posts. He is a boy who crys Wolf all the time.

ORIGINAL: Razz

You guys are funny. Check Bo's posts.

Every post is negative and says the game is broken, when it isn't.

Perhaps if he asked for help it would be different.

Plus he doesn't understand your answers and can't explain his problems.

Just read his posts. He is a boy who crys Wolf all the time.

1- you insult anybody who agrees with me calling them funny which is the same as idiots
2-not every post is negative just asked to fix some problems most of my posts praise the game not said its broken and that makes you a liar.
3- understood every bodies post but yours, already explained the problems that you havent grasped yet.
4-I am 62 years old not a boy crying wolf whatever the hell that means.
5- AND MOST IMPORTANT EVERY BODY DISAGREES WITH YOU AND MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO READ THE POSTS AGAIN.

Bo

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...the small developers who work with Matrix don't write decent manuals

Believe me, the writing of manuals is a fine art. The people who can do it well are few and far between.
It requires a damn good knowledge of the language of the end user, a REALLY good understanding of the game or other software package and lots of liaison between the developers and the end user representatives (when you can get hold of them). Not only that, but it takes time.
The beancounters, nitpickers and anal retentive control freaks in Management who are only concerned with the bottom line of the project DO NOT WANT to pay a proper manual writer what (s)he's worth in the first place, nor for the actual number of hours contributed and will trash the project manual as the first of their "cost-cutting" exercises.

So, it's not reasonable to blame Wastelands Interactive (a developer who works in the Polish language) for the quality of the manuals they've given us. [:-]

I'm very pleased that they're as good as they are, and you can quote me on that.

But, this part made me smile: "Please ensure your system meets the minimum requirements listed below. To install
the game, either double click on the installation file you downloaded or insert the
Distant Worlds™ CD into your CD-ROM drive."

Tomokatu is right though.

Can we calm this all down please. Things seem to have gotten out of control. I'm sure you wouldn't talk to each other like this if you were face to face so try to treat people with the same repect online as you woudl when talking to them. Forum posts can often be misinterpted so please try to read things in the way they were written and avoid hasty replies. Everyone here is interested in making a good game better so you're all on the same side!

I'll ask the developer to respond to these concerns in this thread.

I was hoping that this thread will drift into more civilized parts of the world.

I think that the main subject has been lost many posts ago.

Anyway, we have changed the rule that disallowed to send convoys to cities with supply higher than 25, so since the next patch, there will a possibility to send supply to all ports and distribute it further to the other cities.

I'm hoping this explains the question.


Regarding the manual. I think that the issue was already discussed some time ago.
The manual was made by Wastelands Interactive and proofreaded by several English native speakers. Please take under consideration that the game text and manual contains more than one hundred thousand words and some minor issues might slipped unnoticed. There was also a special thread created by one of the forumees where everybody could post bugs found. IIRC there were only something around 5 constructive posts pointing bugs. Of course if you have spotted something, please let us know about that and don't forget to post version number.

What do the coloured squares mean...when you use counters.
I didn't see that in the manual...you could add that to the manual...if it's not in there.
It was asked before...& no reply was given.

It is not so much what is in the manual, It is what was left out of the manual that is a problem. So much was left out that you end up playing blind. I don't know what problems are bugs or if it is working as designed! It was/is a very poor manual, if I didn't have experience with TOW, I wouldn't know what was going on. Then when someone asks for clarifications, they get half an answer, if the question is answered at all. It appears, sometimes, that the developers don't understand their own game. Or if they do, they seem reluctant to share the information. Of course this is old news. Just my 2 cents worth!

green - unit can move (AP>0)
orange - supply is low
red - replacement is possible (strength<max strength)
blue - can participate in multi-direction attack

Thank you once again Bleck!!!!!

Please add that to the instructions.

ORIGINAL: doomtrader

I was hoping that this thread will drift into more civilized parts of the world.

I think that the main subject has been lost many posts ago.

Anyway, we have changed the rule that disallowed to send convoys to cities with supply higher than 25, so since the next patch, there will a possibility to send supply to all ports and distribute it further to the other cities.

I'm hoping this explains the question.

Yes many posts ago doomtrader I asked a simple question about supply and my feelings are if you had said this earlier there would have been no problem, and pray tell when will this next patch be out I am interested in Rising Sun.

Bo
Regarding the manual. I think that the issue was already discussed some time ago.
The manual was made by Wastelands Interactive and proofreaded by several English native speakers. Please take under consideration that the game text and manual contains more than one hundred thousand words and some minor issues might slipped unnoticed. There was also a special thread created by one of the forumees where everybody could post bugs found. IIRC there were only something around 5 constructive posts pointing bugs. Of course if you have spotted something, please let us know about that and don't forget to post version number.

ORIGINAL: DampSquib

What do the coloured squares mean...when you use counters.
I didn't see that in the manual...you could add that to the manual...if it's not in there.
It was asked before...& no reply was given.

Hey dampsquid can we stick to the post of supply please not the colour of icons, thank you.

Bo

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

Can we calm this all down please. Things seem to have gotten out of control. I'm sure you wouldn't talk to each other like this if you were face to face so try to treat people with the same repect online as you woudl when talking to them. Forum posts can often be misinterpted so please try to read things in the way they were written and avoid hasty replies. Everyone here is interested in making a good game better so you're all on the same side!

I'll ask the developer to respond to these concerns in this thread.

Mr McNeil if you read my opening thread on supply it was a simple question with an even simplier solution, but it got out of hand when Razz started to insult everyone including me and really got out of hand when Wastelands let it drag on and on without stepping in with some comment, any comment positive or negative to show the company has any interest in this game and fixing things. I am not a mean person just a person who wants to see a good game get better.

Bo

Bo

Giving that it is Matrix`s forum we rather shy away from taking any side in “hot” discussions, I assure you we are checking the forum every day and looking for possibilities to improve the game as we do in case of Time of Wrath - have you noticed that we made several patches for ToW and despite the fact that the premiere of the game was over a year ago there will be another patch very soon? The same story goes with SOP.

ORIGINAL: Anraz

Giving that it is Matrix`s forum we rather shy away from taking any side in “hot” discussions, I assure you we are checking the forum every day and looking for possibilities to improve the game as we do in case of Time of Wrath - have you noticed that we made several patches for ToW and despite the fact that the premiere of the game was over a year ago there will be another patch very soon? The same story goes with SOP.

Thank you Anraz appreciate your concern, sometimes it looks like if I did not post and speak my mind there wouldn't be any posts [maybe a good thing huh![;)] ] would you be kind enough to give me an approximate date or time when the new patch will be out with Rising Sun in it?

Bo

Hi Bo,

I think your last post here was just missed. We don't know the date yet, but I will check with Wastelands and see if we have an ETA.

Regards,

- Erik