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RE: running Harpoon with windows 7

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:32 am
by hoggrken
Brad and / or Tony ... I am just curious if there are any plans to upgrade the Harpoon Commander's Edition to a 64-bit platform in the near-future. I have just downloaded Harpoon Ultimate Edition, and have found out - to my dismay - that I cannot access the Scenario Editor. Using a Toshiba Satellite laptop (brand new) with WIN 7 Home Premium Edition, 2.2 GhZ Core I3 CPU ... I may have to shell out an aditional $90 for the WIN 7 Pro operating system upgrade. Being a veteran 'Pooner, I also like to 'tweak' the scenarios with the Editor provided ... BTW, I click on the HCE Scenario Editor, and all I get is a 'click' ... thanks in advance for any assistance ... Ken King. BTW - a computer 'dummy/ ... and a definite WIN 7 O/S dummy!

RE: running Harpoon with windows 7

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:20 pm
by TonyE
ORIGINAL: hoggrken
I am just curious if there are any plans to upgrade the Harpoon Commander's Edition to a 64-bit platform in the near-future.

Hi Ken,

There are no plans in the near future to make even a 32-bit SE (Scenario Editor), let alone a 64-bit one. There are two main reasons:

1) The virtualization approach has become quite manageable both in difficulty and price. I don't know how many copies of HC have been sold of late but it would take a lot of $90s to pay someone to create a 32-bit SE. Speaking of which, I finally wrote some instructions on the configuration of Windows XP Mode in Windows 7, find them at http://harpgamer.com/harpforum/index.ph ... owfile=718 .

2) You probably know this is a hobby for those of us working on the game. Those of us working on the game would rather have many other capabilities before a 32-bit SE especially with 1) holding true. Our main reason for making a 32-bit SE is to help break out of the database limitations. Also, being a hobby I cannot devote a ton of time to the project unless it somehow became a paid gig and there is zero sign of that happening.

I should mention a different approach players can take that I have to be reminded of now and again. You can use an old computer to run the SE, may be cheaper even than the Win 7 Pro upgrade. It would be good to use at least a Windows 2000 machine but I have a hunch the SE will still work even on Windows 95. Copy your HUCE/HC/... directory to the old machine and double-click WSCENEDT.EXE, off you go. An old boat anchor laptop would do nicely.

RE: running Harpoon with windows 7

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:26 pm
by JSF
The old rig trick does it best and cheapest IMO Using my old Laptop for it. Better than being the Win 7 upgrade.


RE: running Harpoon with windows 7

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:07 pm
by hoggrken
Hi Tony, and thank you for the quick reply. I fully understand that this is a 'hobby pursuit' for you and the rest of the Harpoon programming team. No worries - merely curious! If I had it in my power, I would compensate you fellows to cook up a 32-bti game package ... but I can't - so I digress!

I think I will upgrade this laptop O/S to Win 7 Pro, and follow the instructions in the great .pdf document that you posted. (I only found thya on HarpGamer, just after I posted my first query...D'OH!! ).

You programming guys at the Heart of Harpoon, are still the most helpful dudes ... and I go back to the 360 Pacific 'Harppon' versions, running on Win 95 machines. Hope you keep up the great work!

Best regards,

Ken King ... AKA 'hoggrken' - St. Albert Alberta Canada.