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RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:21 pm
by viberpol
ORIGINAL: michaelm
It is a timing thing.
It will only reset to the old date if at the end of a R&D cycle which 1 in 100 chance (assuming it gains 1 R&D point per day, that is 1 in every 100 days it would be likely to get reset)
Yeah, right... [X(]
See the Tracker info below. It's a part of the PBEM research program.
You suggest that those not-so-important planes researched got just bad dice rolls/"timing" and are in the wrong time in the wrong place??? [8|]
Sorry, but I am not buying this explanation.
533 is the database upgrade day (today). As I see it it resets almost all researched and already accelerated frames!
While the change in actually produced frames is understandable, I cannot accept the idea behind resetting all aircraft R&D.
Note also that
none engine R&D has been reset.
RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:17 pm
by jwilkerson
ORIGINAL: viberpol
That's OK, I 100% agree. Cards are on the table. Play with it.
Follow your own advice - don't apply the in game update and your R&D will be fine.
RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:19 pm
by castor troy
Patched the game and didn´t even got asked for db changes or not. [&:]
RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:20 pm
by CapAndGown
ORIGINAL: castor troy
Patched the game and didn´t even got asked for db changes or not. [&:]
If you are playing the allied side, you wouldn't be asked, would you?
RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:23 pm
by castor troy
ORIGINAL: cap_and_gown
ORIGINAL: castor troy
Patched the game and didn´t even got asked for db changes or not. [&:]
If you are playing the allied side, you wouldn't be asked, would you?
but how does the game know what I´m playing when I just click the patch exe? And what if I would like to start an IJN game after updating? [&:]
RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:26 pm
by Smeulders
ORIGINAL: castor troy
ORIGINAL: cap_and_gown
ORIGINAL: castor troy
Patched the game and didn´t even got asked for db changes or not. [&:]
If you are playing the allied side, you wouldn't be asked, would you?
but how does the game know what I´m playing when I just click the patch exe? And what if I would like to start an IJN game after updating? [&:]
Updating the DB for games in progress would be done when opening the save file I think.
RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:48 pm
by Rainer
If you are playing the allied side, you wouldn't be asked, would you?
Playing Allied vs AI you ARE asked.
RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:17 pm
by ChezDaJez
ORIGINAL: d0mbo
I loaded the turn on an old databse sent to me by my opponent. It only said the database was changed? I had the choice of accepting the turn and loading it OR i could say no and then the turn wouldnt load.
WHat gives?
Did my opponent update already? (I am the JAP side).
Does sound like your opponent upgraded and then sent you the turn. Not sure if you simply upgrading and running the turn will take care of it but subsequent turns should be ok I would think.
Chez
RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:47 pm
by michaelm75au
Upon request, I went back and check the code for 1106i. It is different to my current new code which I had checked.
The original code updates the date if R&D points are 0 (as I have said) OR there are no planes in the pool.
The second condition is missing from my new code so I must have at some stage determined that this was a problem.
This also explains why the a/c engine seems to be okay as it only checks the first condition in both my old and new code.
Sorry for my mistake. Trying to balance two codes at the same time is difficult at the best of time.
RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:00 pm
by viberpol
ORIGINAL: jwilkerson
ORIGINAL: viberpol
That's OK, I 100% agree. Cards are on the table. Play with it.
Follow your own advice - don't apply the in game update and your R&D will be fine.
But I also do want to play game with as much mistakes corrected as possible AND, at the same time, the game that does not ruin the production program. [;)]
ORIGINAL: michaelm
Upon request, I went back and check the code for 1106i. It is different to my current new code which I had checked.
The original code updates the date if R&D points are 0 (as I have said) OR there are no planes in the pool.
The second condition is missing from my new code so I must have at some stage determined that this was a problem.
Sorry for my mistake. Trying to balance two codes at the same time is difficult at the best of time.
This explains why R&D frames (= 0 produced/0 in the pool) are reset with the latest patch.
It gives us hope for correcting clear data mistakes with proper update patch working.
Thanks a lot Michael! Great insight & nice job in pinpointing the problem, as usual. [&o]
If only you more frequently believed in what the players say...
Sometimes, they're right... [;)] [:D]
RE: New Patch destroys R&D
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:01 pm
by hunchback77
ORIGINAL: michaelm
Upon request, I went back and check the code for 1106i. It is different to my current new code which I had checked.
The original code updates the date if R&D points are 0 (as I have said) OR there are no planes in the pool.
The second condition is missing from my new code so I must have at some stage determined that this was a problem.
This also explains why the a/c engine seems to be okay as it only checks the first condition in both my old and new code.
Sorry for my mistake. Trying to balance two codes at the same time is difficult at the best of time.
Please post your new code to 1106i and put it on the Matrix servers so we can try it out Michael.
Thank you for your hard work.