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Mark me down too as a long time lurker buying this one. Have been playing wargames for along time (old spi games) and can't wait for this one to come out! It looks awesome!

Well, after monstrous WitP and WitP-AE this is one must have, and I don't mind price!
Gary Grigsby is my favourite wargame developer.
Now I'm buying books about Eastern Front to get familiar with this kind of warfare as I'm primary pacific boy and still newbie in wargaming.

ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Just fyi: I'm 100% a Soviet player. No interest whatsoever in playing Germans. This, as it turns out, is something of a minority taste for some odd reason.

I guess we are part of the same minority. I prefer the Russians as they start the underdog and have several hurtles to cross just to survive. Yeh, the Nazis can win the fashion war, but that helps little when the T-34's come to visit...

Actually it probably will be easy to get a PBEM game since I am taking the non preferred side, according to many...

Anyone want to start a game when it arrives?

ORIGINAL: blastpop

Anyone want to start a game when it arrives?

Speak of arrival- Any bets on the date of arrival? I bet 100 Quatloos it will be Thursday Dec 9, 2010... [:D]



Blastpop- Gamester of Triskalion

ORIGINAL: Uskok

Well, after monstrous WitP and WitP-AE this is one must have, and I don't mind price!
Gary Grigsby is my favourite wargame developer.
Now I'm buying books about Eastern Front to get familiar with this kind of warfare as I'm primary pacific boy and still newbie in wargaming.

I am currently playing 2 WiTP PBEM games and I will be playing WiTE alongside them so that I have both theatres going simultaneously!

I might even kick-off a BoBII campaign followed by a B17 The Fight Eighth one (great game - underrated). I should get those done just in time to order that Normandy game that's due out... If it wasn't too sad, I'd have them all synchronised by date and put a big wall map up to track my progress in global conquest. (Just kidding)

May I recommend:

1. Thunder in the East by Mawdsley
2. Absolute War by Bellamy
3. Panzer Operations by Raus

These are less popular than some other titles, but I find them to be excellent sources.

ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Just fyi: I'm 100% a Soviet player. No interest whatsoever in playing Germans. This, as it turns out, is something of a minority taste for some odd reason.

In WiR, I almost exclusively played the Soviets. I love the first blizzard turns and the counter attack!

This title looks like it is gaining a lot of momentum with people who usually are quiet. Maybe this will be one of the best ever of these types of wargames.

ORIGINAL: von Jaeger

ORIGINAL: CheerfullyInsane
And one thing I love about wargamers, they are almost to a man a polite and informative lot.

I resent that!! [;)]
that you can carry on playing whilst waiting for the return turn by email. It's a big game and turns take time. And we have to work and stuff...

We are nearly there now, children. Can you see the sea yet?

1 Be fair -he did say 'almost'

2 Stuff the sea. I want to see the Caucasus from Mt Elbrus

As a long time pbem HPS player-of all the tiller pz campaigns-games I consider second to none when it comes to operational level warfare (course I cant play a game without volcano man's art and map mods by jison)-I am eagerly awaiting this game. Because when I was young, maybe in 8th or 9th grade, SSI and Grigsby came out with that war in russia game. That was one of the intros to computer gaming for me.

This looks great and Id pay 60 bucks for it no problem

But one of the weird vibes Im getting here thou is the fear of pbem cheating. Ive only been reading the forums for a few days and this comes up over and over again. And I dont see any ladders at all-they all seem dead. At the blitz.org there is an extensive and well supported ladder that has been goin on for over 8 years and I can think of only one instance of cheating. I like the server idea of pbem games because it appears to be an easy notification and organization tool, not an anti cheating devices. Again I'm looking forward to pbem either way because no AI can stand up to good human play.
Bring on Tues/Weds

Oh snap, someone was asking about books on the Russo German conflict-that was my major in college-good old amherst...Anything by COl. Glanz will fill your appetite for reading. I highly recommend Kursk (which I could not put down) and his two 2 NEW books on Stalingrad-HUGE books with great detail-I have yet to read them but have them. I am currently reading Blitzkrieg in the West-a then and now pictorial book of 800 pages with amazing photos...but back to russian front books-Glanz is great, of course you can go with the old one, Enemy at the Gates, and Manstiens own book, Lost Victories-good books all. Too many to list. I would goto amazon and look at customer reviews, of course Glanz's new stalingrads are a perfect 10 for 10

ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Just fyi: I'm 100% a Soviet player. No interest whatsoever in playing Germans. This, as it turns out, is something of a minority taste for some odd reason.

but the best way to be a better soviet player would be to take the other side once in a while-then you know the intimate detail of your sworn enemy [:D]

ORIGINAL: raizer
But one of the weird vibes Im getting here thou is the fear of pbem cheating. Ive only been reading the forums for a few days and this comes up over and over again. And I dont see any ladders at all-they all seem dead. At the blitz.org there is an extensive and well supported ladder that has been goin on for over 8 years and I can think of only one instance of cheating. I like the server idea of pbem games because it appears to be an easy notification and organization tool, not an anti cheating devices. Again I'm looking forward to pbem either way because no AI can stand up to good human play.
Bring on Tues/Weds

I don't think people are actually worried about cheating, more excited about the idea that now they can be positive.
I still maintain that people willing to invest the time and money this game requires, aren't likely to cheat in the first place.
The AI can't substitute a human player, but they are getting very good.
SSGs AI in the Decisive Battles series still kicks my butt on a regular basis, and from what I've read it looks like GAIA is quite capable of giving you a serious run for your money.

As for the ladders, they will come as soon as the fan-base grows bigger.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the game actually tracks win/loss record for ladder use, just hasn't been implemented yet.
We'll see.

ORIGINAL: raizer


but the best way to be a better soviet player would be to take the other side once in a while-then you know the intimate detail of your sworn enemy [:D]

No, the best way to be a better Soviet player is to build more artillery divisions and bury the German in a hail of fire.

Cheating does occur at the Blitz, they just don't speak of it. I was a victim. Sure 99% are honest. But when you are unfortunate enough to encounter the other 1% it leaves a bitter taste. This PBEM server play is the best thing since sliced bread IMO.

This looks great and Id pay 60 bucks for it no problem

Probably going to be more than 60. They said it was in the realm of the WitP-Ae type games, so I'm looking at $75-80 range.

But don't quote me!

Still, don't want you to be badly surprised.

ORIGINAL: redmarkus4

I am currently playing 2 WiTP PBEM games and I will be playing WiTE alongside them so that I have both theatres going simultaneously!

I might even kick-off a BoBII campaign followed by a B17 The Fight Eighth one (great game - underrated). I should get those done just in time to order that Normandy game that's due out... If it wasn't too sad, I'd have them all synchronised by date and put a big wall map up to track my progress in global conquest. (Just kidding)

May I recommend:

1. Thunder in the East by Mawdsley
2. Absolute War by Bellamy
3. Panzer Operations by Raus

These are less popular than some other titles, but I find them to be excellent sources.

How do you manage to play all this games?

Thanks for recommendations. I've ordered Absolute War by Chris Bellamy. It will come, I hope, before Christmas.