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ORIGINAL: Eldiora

I really hope something is done with the balance, i can invade and take over a whole star empire with only troop transports without any sort of retaliation. You just need 10 fleets with 4-5 troop transporst in them each (200-300k troops per fleet) and then simply send them to take over the stronges enemy colonies. No real defence anything.

It would be slightly better if planet defenders would focus fire on troop transports (or just focus fire, period) and maybe disable them with EMPs, however I don't think there's any defence against a swarm of 50 troop ships. [X(] Except maybe some kind of slow-mo field and powerful area weapons.

The thing I usually use is one capital-sized troop transport full of crack troops, and a moderately powerful fleet to distract the base defences. It doesn't even matter if they survive the battle as long as the troops land.

Edit: I just tried something crazy. I added 100 Ion Pulses and 100 Deurasian Shockwaves to a space port, and it did terrible, terrible things to a horde fleet. It wasn't really cost prohibitive either, well under 20k maintenance. Would love to see something like that on an AI planet. Of course it didn't only destroy enemy ships around it, but everyone else too.

I don't think it's a bug. I have yet to see the Shakturi because all my games are slow tech and starting empires. My current game is around 2900 and still no Shakturi. At this point even if they show up I doubt they would stand much of a chance.

Sounds like we may need to make a few tweaks to make sure the Shakturi are showing up on schedule for all playstyles and settings. We tested for a pretty wide range of settings, but it sounds like it's not working ideally for some setting combinations. If you've played well into the late game and have not encountered the Erutkah Refugees or the Shakturi, please upload a saved game for us and post a note about it in the tech support section.

Regards,

- Erik

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Sounds like we may need to make a few tweaks to make sure the Shakturi are showing up on schedule for all playstyles and settings. We tested for a pretty wide range of settings, but it sounds like it's not working ideally for some setting combinations. If you've played well into the late game and have not encountered the Erutkah Refugees or the Shakturi, please upload a saved game for us and post a note about it in the tech support section.

Regards,

- Erik

I'll do that Erik. It's a shame because I already read the spoilers. I couldn't help it, had to know if something was wrong.

I have to say though, even though I didn't get throught the story, it was still the best game of DW I've ever played. Terrific expansion.[;)]

AS has been mentioned, I think that the latest you should see them is 100 years into the game.

ORIGINAL: the1sean

AS has been mentioned, I think that the latest you should see them is 100 years into the game.

Agreed. That's when I started to ask myself, 'Am I supposed to do something here?'

I played a lot of 4x games and I really like this one. While I'm waiting for Civ5 and Elemental to get their acts together, I've come back to this one because of the expansion pack. It's deep, it's fun, and I've experienced no bugs or glitches that I'm aware of. I binged on it all through the Xmas holidays, and I'm lovin it.

I'll suggest you buy while you can get the sale price. I don't think you'll be dissapointed.

ORIGINAL: madjoseph

I played a lot of 4x games and I really like this one. While I'm waiting for Civ5 and Elemental to get their acts together, I've come back to this one because of the expansion pack. It's deep, it's fun, and I've experienced no bugs or glitches that I'm aware of. I binged on it all through the Xmas holidays, and I'm lovin it.

I'll suggest you buy while you can get the sale price. I don't think you'll be dissapointed.

Don't get your hopes up fr Civ V getting fixed, especially since the departure of Jon Shafer from Firaxis.

ORIGINAL: madjoseph

I played a lot of 4x games and I really like this one. While I'm waiting for Civ5 and Elemental to get their acts together, I've come back to this one because of the expansion pack.

Don't even get me started about that game. I am still angry I preordered it and got charged for a totally unfinished product

I need to think more about DW:ROTS, ahh, anger is clearing...

At least they're actively working on Elemental, even brought in a new project lead. IIRC they will give you two of the expansion packs for free if you bought the game around release, so there's still hope we will get our moneys worth. That is some very nice damage control!

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Wow!

What an epic game I just finished.
Yeah, I was Beta Tester so I should know what to expect, but it's always a surprise at how it plays out.

I could have just whacked them when they showed up, but I let it play out as it was intended to be.


The Shakturi managed to claim a handful of systems spreading from the left to the right side of the Galaxy - not something I was looking forward too.

By the time all the cards fell into place it wasn't a pretty picture.
I was on good terms with most of the other Empires and had carefully accepted a few MDP's. I was wanting the Dhayut taken out before the trouble began, but no luck there.

My first Fleet (3 Capitals, 5 Cruisers, 7 Destroyers) got waxed in the first encounter and it wasn't even in the Shakturi home system [X(]

That's about when I lost my first planet - KaBoom.

My next Fleet had one goal/target, and it succeeded but I lost a third of it.
I sent this one to attack a weakly defended system, and threw in a couple "Floating City" Capitals I designed [;)]
Even with all that, talk about a fire-fight . . . .

I managed to get most of the other Empires into the mix, and a good thing too.
The Shakturi had Fleets all over the Galaxy.
I don't think without their (other Empires) help I'd have been able to hold off the Shakturi the way they were rolling. I needed the other Empires to at least distract them while I tried to co-ordinate my efforts.

Some truly epic battles in this one, it went back and forth a couple times - really surprising.


Oh, and did I mention that I had completed the Tech Tree by the time this all happened?
I had some truly decent firepower, and it was only enough with the help of my Allies

Jesus..  you got me worried about the Shakturi showing up in my game now...

So they appear later in the game?  I mean,  ive seen the list of empires,  im playing sandbox plus with both stories on,  and they dont appear in the list,  meaning that they later appear as an empire?   The first people i encountered are the Ancient Guardians,  i would love to see the Shakturi apear and start messing with all empires including mine,  sometimes I love a little bit of chaos.

Plus i did bought the game Civ 5,  man,  im so very disappointed with that game,  too much eye candy and less candy to bite. 

ORIGINAL: Setekh

Jesus..  you got me worried about the Shakturi showing up in my game now...

That was just the first half hour, the whole war was three or four nail biting hours. They only had 7 to 9 colonies when they finally lit the fuse.

They probably would have attacked much sooner, but they put me in a situation where I was able to stall them from going to war a couple of times.

And what are the victory conditions linked to the story ? (as shown in the game options)

I also just fought the Shakturi for the first time.  Of course, when the "Refugees" arrived I knew exactly what they where (having read the galactopedia, gotten a lot of the lore already, and having half a brain) and proceeded to try to pound them into dust.  Of course, they just so happened to be surrounded by their little insect friends, making my endeavors a little harder then I thought when several wars broke out.  And then they decided to reveal themselves.

The final battle was, to say the least, damn epic.  It lasted a good hour or two, and moved through several different systems as I retreated for fuel, regrouped, attacked, pushed foward, retreated... In the end I managed to take their capital, barely holding out on the space side of things and the planet side of things.  Just as my last ships where falling did I take the capital.

Man I wanna enable the plot now lol

Quick question, are there any unbalancing factors to the expansion plot?
What I mean is, clusters of advanced ships laying about like in the normal plot... which I found to be quite annoying

ORIGINAL: Joubarbe

And what are the victory conditions linked to the story ? (as shown in the game options)

When you get the Alliance, all previous Victory Conditions are superseded by a new set of Victory Conditions.

I think this is what you are asking about?

Hmm I'm not sure to understand. I thought that with the storyline on, a new victory condition came when the shakturis are seen. A condition like "if you kill the Shakturis, then you win, despite all other victory conditions".

I just killed the Refugees as soon as they appeared in the game ; is it a problem for the storyline... ?
(I now have 1.600.000 in cashflow... A bit strange for colonizing just one colony)

Thirty-five years into my game. Everything coming along nicely- still no Shakturi...