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RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:47 pm
by ASHBERY76
ORIGINAL: tornnight

This version seems to be much slower than the rest. Only a few years in and my game has slowed to a crawl at 1x.

I think I notice a lot more activity from the private sector and maybe this is slowing things down. Something changed.

More private ships for sure.I have noticed performance slowing.

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:47 pm
by Erik Rutins
The private sector builds more ships now to increase migration and the decrease in starting colony resources also results in more active trade routes. If you are playing in the largest galaxies, this could be quite noticeable. I think it's worth the trade-off in terms of game balance for now as we will continue to optimize performance in the future. Keep in mind that you can turn off the display of various ship types in the advanced settings as well to help speed up performance.

Regards,

- Erik

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:00 pm
by Data
interesting, we have another thread where we weigh the gameplay versus 2d/3d and gameplay always wins
now how about gameplay versus performance? i would still go for the gameplay bonuses

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:25 pm
by ASHBERY76
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

The private sector builds more ships now to increase migration and the decrease in starting colony resources also results in more active trade routes. If you are playing in the largest galaxies, this could be quite noticeable. I think it's worth the trade-off in terms of game balance for now as we will continue to optimize performance in the future. Keep in mind that you can turn off the display of various ship types in the advanced settings as well to help speed up performance.

Regards,

- Erik

It would be good to have a zoom range option for the display.I would like to zoom in more without the non military ships showing up.

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:46 pm
by WoodMan
It would be good to have a zoom range option for the display.I would like to zoom in more without the non military ships showing up.

Good point.

Also, while we are on zoom, I know this is a rather minor request but can we get some kind of config file or option to set the zooms that the buttons do.  I would like the Sector view to be zoomed in one notch more than it is and the Home zoom to be zoomed out one more notch than it is.  Heh, that sounds so fussy I know, but I have reasons for both:

Sector view: Galaxy background appears oddly pixelated at this zoom (its only minor), zooming in or out by 1 fixes it [&:]
Home view: Big ships less likely to blurry zoomed out by 1, and also I feel its just right to see that slightly bit more in a battle/around a busy port like your homeworld

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:36 pm
by tornnight
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

The private sector builds more ships now to increase migration and the decrease in starting colony resources also results in more active trade routes. If you are playing in the largest galaxies, this could be quite noticeable. I think it's worth the trade-off in terms of game balance for now as we will continue to optimize performance in the future. Keep in mind that you can turn off the display of various ship types in the advanced settings as well to help speed up performance.

Regards,

- Erik

I do have civilian ships turned off in galaxy view. We need an option to turn it off in zoomed in views as suggested.

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:04 am
by tornnight
I think another effect of the increased private sector is that fuel is now in short supply. At least I've never encountered it on this scale before.

EDIT: Maybe it was just my situation. After building up a few more bases, things seemed to get better. Not sure though.

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:45 am
by Raap
Kind of odd, but seem to be crashing pretty often with this patch. That is, it's a strange kind of crash; windows says the application has stopped responding, but the game just continues running perfectly and even allows me to save/load. In this particular case I saved right after the 'crash', but I get a new one as soon as I load.

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:20 am
by Shark7
One other thing I have noticed is that the AI empires don't seem very aggressive at all in building starports. Since starports are a very large portion of an empires additional income, this is a weakness when compared to a player.

The AI may need to be weighted more to building starports for its economy than it currently is.

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:53 pm
by ASHBERY76
ORIGINAL: Shark7

One other thing I have noticed is that the AI empires don't seem very aggressive at all in building starports. Since starports are a very large portion of an empires additional income, this is a weakness when compared to a player.

The AI may need to be weighted more to building starports for its economy than it currently is.

I noticed this too.

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:29 pm
by Sabin Stargem
Not only are starports useful for income, their morale/medical components are useful for making colonies not defect to other empires. I think their small ports should be mainly for those components, with larger ports using their space for construction.

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:32 pm
by Data
that's exactly how I design them as well

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:38 pm
by Sabin Stargem
Come to think of it, is there a limit on Defense Bases or Resort Stations for a planet?

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:23 pm
by Data
don't think so, don't remember this being said explicitly anywhere

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:07 pm
by Tavior
I see that some of my suggestion has been taken serious and good work with patch!

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RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:35 am
by alexalexuk
AI starports need to be fixed!

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:46 am
by Caesar_Augustus
Aye, that's for sure! But as a temporary workaround, you can use the game editor to "add" all types of spaceports to all of the empires in the game. [:D]

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:35 am
by Data
we should do that only when playing the bigest maps and with all the AI empires [:D]

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:39 pm
by Shark7
Right now I give the AI three well populated (10+ Billion) and a large starport at each, just to make it more challenging. I can always periodically pause the game and go in to add some starports for the AI, but that is a quick-fix, not THE FIX. [;)]

RE: New! Return of the Shakturi 1.5.0.4 Public Beta Available!

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:32 pm
by Data
I wonder if this can be modded somehow....even after it's fixed, it would be interesting to setup scenarios like yours
I know that now you can save the game for example but I'm wishing it for new games as well