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RE: I just wanted to say...
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 10:40 am
by junk2drive
Radish the MM is like the game, simple to learn, hard to master [;)]
RE: I just wanted to say...
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:01 pm
by TheGreatRadish
Yeah, I can see that the real quality maps take alot of work and skill. It would be nice to think that maps will appear in abundance though, giving us plenty of options for random battles. A bit like a certain other title I guess.
RE: I just wanted to say...
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:45 pm
by junk2drive
Some guys love to make maps more than playing a game. Hopefully they will jump in. I see Double Deuce lurking and a few other guys I know from other games.
RE: I just wanted to say...
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:58 pm
by Mad Russian
ORIGINAL: TheGreatRadish
Yeah, I can see that the real quality maps take alot of work and skill. It would be nice to think that maps will appear in abundance though, giving us plenty of options for random battles. A bit like a certain other title I guess.
You can put as much or as little time into a map as you like. A winter map of mostly an open field area with a few houses would take me less than an hour. It would take a beginner less than an hour on the map making part as well. What would take the time for a newer map maker would be finding what they are looking for.
That's exactly the reason behind the map making videos and my Pictorial on Map Making.
To help cut down on the learning curve. The term "steep learning curve" simply means poor documentation. We absolutely don't intend for there to be a steep learning curve using the Map Making editor for this game. Stridor started this project with a full head of hair. He now has tremendously less hair having me tell him over and over, "it's not simple enough". Back he would go and bring me another version. We'd start all over again and I'd tell him again, "it's not simple enough."
Finally, one day, he came to me and said, "This is as simple as I can make it." I think he's right. There is no other map making program like this one on the planet. It really can be so simple you click on the editor a dozen times and save a map that can be used in the game. OR you can spend days on your maps, like some people who will remain nameless....Mobius, and add so much detail that it becomes like a work of art.
Read through the map maker section of the rules. Open it up. Watch the first video and check the first part of the pictorial guide. You'll see how simple it really is. Follow along. By the time you make 3 maps there won't be anything you can't do or are afraid to try.
Pictorial Tutorial:
tm.asp?m=2801622
Video Tutorials:
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/391 ... ss.of.Iron
Stridor made a program that is unbelievable in scope and simplicity. [&o] [&o] [&o]
Rick documented it all, both in the manual and in the video tutorials. [&o] [&o] [&o]
Put those two things together and you have a tool that even my 12 year old grand daughter likes to play around with and makes maps on.
It really is that easy.
Good Hunting.
MR
RE: I just wanted to say...
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:05 pm
by DoubleDeuce
ORIGINAL: junk2drive
Some guys love to make maps more than playing a game. Hopefully they will jump in. I see Double Deuce lurking and a few other guys I know from other games.
Remind me to hide my online presence from now on . . . [8D] and yes, the game is downloading as I type this but slowly as the wife and both kids are all watching Netflix movies on their machines and sucking up my bandwidth.
Honestly though, one of the main things that triggered my purchase impulse in getting this game was the Map Maker (along with MR's partial ASL map thread). You'll be seeing me around quite a bit I reckon, kinda like during the SPWAW heydays. [:D]
RE: I just wanted to say...
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:06 pm
by junk2drive
I think you are going to wet yourself. Your wife will think you have a girlfriend from that silly smirk you will be wearing.
RE: I just wanted to say...
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:10 pm
by DoubleDeuce
Got a feeling I'll be camped out in the "Scenarios and Campaigns" subforum.
RE: I just wanted to say...
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 3:03 pm
by Waffenamt
I thought I'd jump in and offer my hearty congratulations and thanks to all involved in in the release of this major upgrade. I'm still savouring the tutorial on "medium" in the full package so I've yet to see many of the new features but I'm really enjoying this so far and I appreciate your amazing efforts. It's great to be back on the ostfront and I have no interest in visiting Normandy at the moment [:)] I'm a previous PCK owner so this is a fantastic offering and I intend to get fully immersed in this.
I'll share more thoughts once I get my arse handed to me in a brown bag a few times! It's the very least I can do besides offer a very big THANK YOU.
RE: I just wanted to say...
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 7:17 pm
by niknaks
yes guys a big thank you for all the hard work, and a big thanks for keeping the specs low so i could keep playing on my old laptop .any up a pbem pm me [&o]